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Post by gazza on Apr 24, 2008 18:12:26 GMT
I am seriously thinking about getting a spindle moulder  would prefer to only buy once, in other words Cast iron  I don't think i would bother with the Electra beckum/ Scheppach varieties as I'm sure 6 months to a year down the line id be wishing id bought better (been there too many times) so better to sacrifice the readies now. from what i have heard you need to know what your looking for, or at. Spindle size, height above and below etc. Unfortunately i haven't a clue why you need to know all these things, and am having trouble finding out  So any pointers or help would be much appreciated. Cheers, Gazza. |
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Post by sainty on Apr 24, 2008 18:40:22 GMT
I don't think i would bother with the Electra beckum/ Scheppach varieties as I'm sure 6 months to a year down the line id be wishing id bought better (been there too many times) so better to sacrifice the readies now. Been there myself recently. Nothing wrong with the scheppach just wist I'd gone "bigger". Theres loads going through on ebay and I convinced that many are bargains but I'll leave it to the experts to give you the necessary spec. Units with a tenoning table are definitely more desirable that those without. Power feeds are another thing that bumps up the price but I'm told that they are a useful accessory. Happy hunting rgds Sainty |
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Post by lynx on Apr 24, 2008 18:44:03 GMT
Wadkin EQ with the original maggie power feed, absolutley bloody lovely machine. No electronic add-ons to go wrong, motor-spindle-block, easy!
only saying that as I own one and I love it
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Post by Keith on Apr 24, 2008 21:06:08 GMT
I've been looking to get a spindle moulder for the last few months but I've decided, after advice on the forum, to get a tilting spindle, which mostly rules out ebay. Then it depends how much you want to pay, my budget has gone up and up Hammer have the F3, currently there is an offer of a free power feed but I think it ends tomorrow. |
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Post by woodworker on Apr 24, 2008 21:55:16 GMT
Gazza, It really depends on what type of things your planning on making with it. Are you making small items, like kitchen doors etc, or if your making house door frames & windows etc sort of sized items . It's more about horse power than spindle opening size, as the bigger HP come with bigger openings to take the larger cutter blocks and they come with longer beds usually. A 2hp can usually only spin up smallish blocks, you can use alloy ones in some of the larger sizes , while the 4hp & above can spin up much larger blocks in steel. Keith in his post mentioned tilting spindles, and imho are worth considering, I wouldn't go back to a fixed spindle. Again imho a powerfeed will be the best accessory you ever bought, the improvement in the cut quality is far better than any hand feeding and safer to use. If you have lots of router bits, you might want to look at machines that can take a router spindle and have the best of both worlds. Imaging turning your spindle moulder into a large router table and using a powerfeed with a decent extraction hood and handwheels to raise & lower the cutter height & then tilt it ......how cool is that  . See.... I've just spent all your money for you ;D ;D ;D Hope this helps |
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Post by jfc on Apr 24, 2008 22:00:19 GMT
My Bursgreen is the work horse of the workshop , i love it and the no tilt to me is no problem as i just get a cutter made up and charge the customer .
I wonder if a tilting cutter block will give the same results as a tilting bed ? At @ £130 it must be a cheaper way or am i missing something ?
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Post by mooretoolsplease on Apr 24, 2008 22:15:46 GMT
Definately get one, they transform how you do things. My new one is turning up tomorrow ;D It only has a 7.5hp motor though So I have a Kity 629 with powerfeed if anyone wants it. |
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Post by jfc on Apr 24, 2008 23:07:44 GMT
Two spindles with power feeds .... oh go on then ;D How much ?
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Post by mooretoolsplease on Apr 24, 2008 23:36:29 GMT
£600 will buy the moulder and power feed. Now you can use one, and those new child employees of yours can use the other |
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Post by Keith on Apr 25, 2008 14:46:40 GMT
After months of deliberation I've just ordered one; completely blown the budget though I can't even bring myself to write down what I've bought  |
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Post by lynx on Apr 25, 2008 15:35:08 GMT
come on, out with it
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Post by Keith on Apr 25, 2008 15:49:05 GMT
It's a F...F..F..F nope can't get it out |
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Post by lynx on Apr 25, 2008 16:15:28 GMT
(Felder have a special offer on their machines until Wednesday. Either money off or free aditional equipment. )
Wonder if this had anything to do with it!!
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Post by Keith on Apr 25, 2008 16:18:19 GMT
It F...F...flippin did ;D
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Post by jfc on Apr 25, 2008 16:19:47 GMT
Now your going to be f f flippin skint for the next two years buying tooling ;D
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Post by Keith on Apr 25, 2008 16:31:26 GMT
What tooling  I can't afford tooling not after ordering a Felder F 700 Z Power feed rolling carriage tennoning hood |
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Post by lynx on Apr 25, 2008 16:32:10 GMT
may I introduce you to Garniga, a very close friend of mine. Expensive tastes but boy, what some kit!
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Post by woodworker on Apr 25, 2008 16:47:33 GMT
What tooling I can't afford tooling not after ordering a Felder F 700 Z Power feed rolling carriage tennoning hood I have just the machine with powerdrive & digidrive ;D ;D very nice, Have you got the extension tables ? as the main table is a bit short if moulding frames etc, does it also come with the power drive now ?. . |
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Post by Keith on Apr 25, 2008 16:54:37 GMT
I didn't order the extension tables, I thought I'd get the basics and then see what I need. There are so many to choose from, which ones would you suggest?
The power drive is price on application!!
I have completely bust my budget anyway as I was originally only looking to spend £2000
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Post by woodworker on Apr 25, 2008 17:08:26 GMT
I didn't order the extension tables, I thought I'd get the basics and then see what I need. The power drive is price on application!! I have completely bust my budget anyway as I was originally only looking to spend £2000 My you have blown the budget ;D. That's a shame on the powerdrive as it was included most of last year. You will of course need the following accessories to maximise your investment ................................................................................................................................... ........ this could take some time, I'll post the list later when your sitting down comfortably with your favourite tipple. ;D |
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Post by jfc on Apr 25, 2008 17:35:22 GMT
Ohhhhhh Keith , what have you done !!!!! ;D Ok as a mate i promise not to bid on any spindle tooling on ebay for two weeks ......... make that one week ;D
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Post by Keith on Apr 25, 2008 17:42:20 GMT
Jason buy all you want, I've told you I've no money for tooling.
I'm going to put it on display in the workshop and just polish it ;D
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Post by jfc on Apr 25, 2008 17:53:22 GMT
Not even one little 40 mm block and a set of cutters and limiters ......... ;D
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Post by Keith on Apr 25, 2008 18:02:54 GMT
Ok, I might just get one rebate head
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Post by gazza on Apr 27, 2008 12:25:34 GMT
Been there myself recently. Nothing wrong with the scheppach just wist I'd gone "bigger". Thats why id rather buy once Gazza, It really depends on what type of things your planning on making with it. Are you making small items, like kitchen doors etc, or if your making house door frames & windows etc sort of sized items . It's more about horse power than spindle opening size, as the bigger HP come with bigger openings to take the larger cutter blocks and they come with longer beds usually. A 2hp can usually only spin up smallish blocks, you can use alloy ones in some of the larger sizes , while the 4hp & above can spin up much larger blocks in steel. Keith in his post mentioned tilting spindles, and imho are worth considering, I wouldn't go back to a fixed spindle. Again imho a powerfeed will be the best accessory you ever bought, the improvement in the cut quality is far better than any hand feeding and safer to use. If you have lots of router bits, you might want to look at machines that can take a router spindle and have the best of both worlds. Imaging turning your spindle moulder into a large router table and using a powerfeed with a decent extraction hood and handwheels to raise & lower the cutter height & then tilt it ......how cool is that . See.... I've just spent all your money for you ;D ;D ;D Hope this helps Excellent info Woodworker, what i was looking for ,thanks. As to the use of the machine, i will want to use it for all sorts, Cabinet doors, raised panels, bigger (proper) doors,cutting tennons,running mouldings and sheeting (t&g) ect. Most things i would imagine that a spindle moulder will do I dont want to spend a fortune, so felder and the likes are not in the running.I also have to be able to buy some tooling Plenty of old iron around but i doubt any of it would have a tilting table. Quite a bit of three phase stuff, again im only single  but i may consider a phase converter which would open up a whole new avenue. Anyone any experience of phase converters ?? A power feed would be an essential i think, but maybe not straight away. Any more info/help appreciated Cheers, Gazza. |
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I can't afford tooling 
but i may consider a phase converter which would open up a whole new avenue.