gloves

[jamesgrant]

I want to buy some gloves for a friend to use with their big horrible bandsaw.

I have seen Screwfix selling £4.99 Kevlar gloves ("can be used as glove liners") and others at £6-ish with slightly thicker Kevlar material and a latex palm.

And then I saw these.

www.toolpost.co.uk/pages/Health___Safety/Protection/protection.html

But would they be too thick to use for bandsawing?

What do you think?
What would are your recommendations?

thanks

[Scrit]

James

Personally I think that gloves on a bandsaw or circular saw are potentially more of a hazard than an advantage, even if you adopt a safe approach and never let your hands get nearer than 12in from the blade. To my mind the problem is that they are too likely to get caught in splinters, splits, etc. which increases the potential for having an accident. They also reduce the touch sensation which can be very necessary for certain types of precision work, e.g. inlays, etc.

If gloves are needed because of cold conditions the fingerless type of gloves such as those sold under the deWalt banner and other brands are worth considering, at least with them you get some insulation and the fingertips are left free. As to the protective values of Kevlar, if the material gets caught by the blade then the machine will still either cut through the material or drag the hand in because even small bandsaws have a fair bit of momentum - not good in either case.

I think that Kevlar gloves were probably developed for people working with sharp knives rather than machines. Incidentally, you might like to know that butchers, who use bandsaws to break-down frozen quarters of meat, are required to wear chain mail gloves, and whilst they can protect the hands from knife cuts even they aren't guaranteed proof against meat saw blades

Scrit

[jamesgrant]

Thanks for that.

I had a feeling that losing the feeling you have when handling material through a saw was a bit of a duff idea.

Saved some money there.

[engineerone]

as a youngish lad i worked at sainsbury's at weekends, and we had to make the mince. amazing how many butchers in those days had only 2 or 3 fingers, cause the mincer got jammed, and they forgot to switch it off

you definately are supposed to wear mail gloves on electric mincers these days.

gloves and machinery are always a problem, since they can get grabbed at the most in appropriate time. when apprenticed we used to get shown photos in nice colour, of some of the wounds incurred by people on our site. gloves and loose clothing pulled off fingers, thumbs as well stripping out tendons and muscles up to the shoulder. not nice.

i think kevlar gloves were only meant for heat protection.

paul

[evergreen]

Paul

I'm another one who worked in the meat department of my local Sainsbury's when I was in my teens! Oh, the happy days of packing pork chops for 8 hours at a time. I remember the butchers wearing those protective aprons that were supposed to prevent them stabbing themselves when boning a big joint and pulling the knife towards themselves. Only it didn't always work and one chap ended up in hospital. I also remember all the nasty bits that were cut out of meat went into the dreaded "Economince"....

On the subject of gloves, I use an old leather pair with the fingers cut off when using the shooting board. Otherwise I find holding the plane on its side damn uncomfortable.

Regards.

[mailee]

yep had a mate who used to use a lathe in his shop and one day wearing gloves his hand was pulled in! Luckily the glove came off but only after severing the end of his finger That's gotta hurt.

[engineerone]

evergreen, now there is a real directive to send you down the slide.

you NEED an LN number 9 which lays on its side, and has a lovely handle. really nice, square and great for the shooting board.

ideal for those who have knackered little fingers

paul

[evergreen]

Paul

Aaaah yes, the Lie-Nielsen #9 - that's another name for the iron mitre plane, I believe? I've had a play with one of those and it is indeed the bees knees for shooting. I've tried to forget about it. You're a very bad man for reminding me.

Regards.

[engineerone]

no malicious thoughts really ;D ;D ;D ;D

but as someone with a knarled hand i found it very comfortable, and thought you might need a nudge down the slope

paul

[lofty]

As an ex-butcher i reckon anyone who sticks their fingers into a mincer is mad, that's what bungs are there for. I was a butcher for over 8 years and protective gloves and aprons were'nt around then, i had one bad cut on my left hand, stabbed my groin once and learned by mistake not to do it again, the biggest culprit for injury was the apron when sawing through carcases, my thumb got dislocated 3 times by catching on the side of the apron.

[engineerone]

i agree with you, but it seems that often people just forget what is going on, and forget that there is a powerful motor there.

amazing how often people think that their fingers are more powerful than the bung

paul

[jfc]

i had one bad cut on my left hand, stabbed my groin once and learned by mistake not to do it again,

Please tell us more about the stabbing of the groin ;D

[mrspanton]

We had to wear showa kevar gloves (the proper japanese ones with blue palm's) and also the arm cuffs in the glass plant. Aparently the H&S man did a demo the first day they were brought into the factory and said look lad's these will protect your hands even if you slip along a fresh cut edge, he proceeded to demonstrate this, and promptly made a huge gash in between thumb and fore finger as the glass went through the ciuff ;D We would put the cuffs first then the gloves over them.

[lofty]

jfc said:

i had one bad cut on my left hand, stabbed my groin once and learned by mistake not to do it again,

Please tell us more about the stabbing of the groin ;D

Let's just say it came very close to ruining the 3 piece suite. ;D

[dirtydeeds]

dfs has an offer on at the moment

[lofty]

Mine may be well worn, but it's still functional for now D.D. ;D