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Post by tusses on Aug 17, 2008 12:15:12 GMT
;D reminded by a thread on the other side, I wondered what your views were about safety with regards to angle grinder attachments for carving   I used it for carving rocking horses a few years ago - its removes a lot of wood fast ! Its just a tiny chain saw, I do have a chainsaw too, but I have never tried carving with it. Arbortech do a similar blade, but theirs is one piece. |
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Post by Scrit on Aug 17, 2008 13:31:59 GMT
They look interesting ;D I've seen people using them for carving on shows, but I think if you were holding on with both hands and the work was securely clamped you'd need to either very stupid or a contortionist (or both?) to do much damage to yourself, unlike say using a table saw or spindle moulder where you are actively propelling material towards the cutter with your hands. I've been told that they have a kick like a mule if you let them go blunt. I use angle grinders quite often (on masonry) and just like any other power tool you need to know how to use them and what protective gear to wear (protective boots, leather gloves, long sleeve shirt, full length trousers, dust mask, ear defenders, goggles, hard hat, etc, etc......) Perhaps the point about portable power tools is that they are generally reasonably safe because (a) you normally need to clamp the work securely, (b) you hold onto them with both hands and because of that (c) you are generally behind the cutting tool propelling it away from you. Although there are exceptions. The two I'm most wary of (and I have used both) are the Stihlsaw and chainsaws, both of which have a propensity to injure if misused (as the accident statistics show)........  Scrit |
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Post by tusses on Aug 17, 2008 13:47:26 GMT
haha ! love the you tube vid !
I do wonder about the gloves and the chainsaw chain being so close to each other - whether the gloves could get dragged in ?
I do where leather gloves and I do treat the thing with great respect. Its pretty scary the 1st time you use it !
It also has the gyroscopic effect as the cutter is quite heavy and spinning very fast - takes a bit of getting used to
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Post by Scrit on Aug 17, 2008 14:03:40 GMT
I used to know a couple of guys who did forestry work and were using chain saws all the time. They used to wear Kevlar gloves for work. They reckoned it was your face and torso that needed the greatest protection. Apparently 5 or 6 people are kilkled each year in chain saw accidents, with about 250 to 300 more suffering major injuries. If the Arbortech is anything like using a big grinder on masonry you'll need the gloves as your hands will be hit by waste all the time you're using the tool. I supposde Arbortech do advise two handed use - if nothing else it can save you from stuff like this one-handed chain saw accidentScrit |
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Post by engineerone on Aug 17, 2008 14:42:28 GMT
from what i remember about the chain saw accidents, it is mainly newer users who kill themselves, and they often sever the main artery in their leg because the saw tends to go downward and inward if it jumps back. maybe they should have kevlar thigh pads ;D actually of course what is really scary is to watch the stihl world championships for chain saws, the amount of time they spend with the saw working between their legs is scary  paul  |
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Post by tusses on Aug 17, 2008 15:26:44 GMT
long fibre kevlar is used a lot in safety trousers as it clogs and jams the chain pretty quickly. I would imagine you's still get some flesh loss though !
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Post by Scrit on Aug 17, 2008 19:15:33 GMT
from what i remember about the chain saw accidents..... .....they often sever the main artery in their leg..... maybe they should have kevlar thigh pads ;D If you do that for a living you're supposed to wear specuial re-inforced trousers - front and rear . I'm told it's severing the femoral artery in the upper which causes the problems because if the injury is too far up the leg you can't always apply enough pressure to staunch the bleeding. And the unlucky ones apparently bleed to death really quickly. Maybe pulping a hand on a dado.... No , don;'t go there Scrit |
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Post by misterfish on Aug 18, 2008 8:10:45 GMT
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Post by engineerone on Aug 18, 2008 9:17:09 GMT
yes i remember that he almost lost the use of his whole hand because of nearly cutting through the tendons etc.  just goes to show when in a hurry your concentration can slip enough to cause you problems paul |
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Post by tusses on Aug 18, 2008 9:41:56 GMT
you can see just from the picture of the cutter not installed that it's not something to be taken lightly !
in use, you need good footing , total concentration - and definitely need the guard !
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