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Post by lynx on Nov 13, 2008 21:28:29 GMT
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Post by jfc on Nov 13, 2008 21:34:54 GMT
Looks the same as the SIP one i have , does the job but has one major fault . The handle that makes it go up and down is held on with a pin that is not a spare part . When this snaps ( and it will ) the morticer wont go up and down . Ive got over this by drilling out the pin and getting some shear pins from a boat yard . They gave me a hand full and bet i wouldnt snap them . Ive snapped around ten so far . I'm thinking of getting the handle wielded to the shaft but i know if i do that i will need to remove it for some reason  . Other than that its great and easy to adjust / set up . |
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Post by lynx on Nov 13, 2008 21:41:57 GMT
How is it with 3/4" in hardwood?
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Post by jfc on Nov 13, 2008 21:47:57 GMT
I mainly use 1/2" but have used it in anger on most timbers , sometimes all day and i cant fault it other than the above problem . To be honest i didnt expect it to last but it has done me well for around 3-4 years .
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Post by jfc on Nov 13, 2008 21:49:34 GMT
Having said that if you can fit a chain morticer on the work then i would double the costs and go for a hand held one of those .
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Post by lynx on Nov 13, 2008 21:51:02 GMT
thanks, looks like the best option for the price.
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Post by jonnyd on Nov 13, 2008 21:59:06 GMT
I had a charnwood one similar to the fox it lasted about 6 years then i had a problem with some broken castings. It did a reasonable job but not a patch on the secondhand multico i bought to replace it. It would handle 3/4 in softwood but struggled with 3/4 in hardwood.
jon
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Post by Stree on Nov 14, 2008 18:07:30 GMT
lynx
Just sent you another PM
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Post by Stree on Nov 14, 2008 18:14:36 GMT
Might as well post it here then for anyone else considering a floor standing morticer from the current offerings on the market. ( Not including Sedgwick Multico Startrite etc. they are a different league )
This is a crop from an earlier post when I was searching for a bigger morticer than my Multico PM12
""So had a good ( online ) look at all the floor standing morticer offerings from all the above and with the exception of the JET it quickly became obvious that ALL these manufacturers had a model based on the same clone ! With the exception of minor detail these are all identical apart from workpiece cramps, handles, base cabinets, Bristol levers etc. but in essence minor variations of the same machine.
So its down to most attractive specifications and price..
Fox gets dismissed because it will only take 3/4 shank chisels and thats too limiting and all the others have 3/4" (19mm) 13/16" and 1.3/16" capabilities
Axminster stick on a hefty delivery charge.
SIP crank the price up by a good margin for the same thing
Charnwood are comparatively expensive as well so it does not make sense to buy that one
So I can get the same machine in various guises, and out of them all to my surprise I think I am going to opt for the Draper offering, which I can buy without the cabinet which I do not need anyway, but with the top spec, 16mm chuck, 3 chisel size bushings and a free but no doubt low spec 5/8" chisel and bit, inc VAT and delivered for under £300:00 wheras some dealers are asking over £500:00 although including the cabinet.
I hope I am not missing something here! Still not easy about buying Draper brand but logic dictates its the sensible option....
Your thoughts welcome.""
End of crop.....................
Had it a while now, its well engineered, does the job and nothing has broken or fallen off,,,,,,,,,,
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Post by lynx on Nov 20, 2008 12:27:58 GMT
Right, got myself a Multico M3 on it's way (hopefully) for less than the fox offering
Does anyone know the diameter shank this will take in order to purchase a few chisels? The seller can't tell me until late this evening and it maybe a bit late then
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Post by modernist on Nov 20, 2008 13:09:08 GMT
For a guy buying machinery at a run you are doing OK so far ;D ;D
Brian
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Post by lynx on Nov 20, 2008 18:13:42 GMT
FYI it's 13/16"
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Post by jonnyd on Nov 20, 2008 21:08:53 GMT
My Multico hasnt got a chuck you need top hat bushes/ collets to clamp in the auger so the diameter of the auger is critical so might be worth checking before you order any chisels. I got an engineer turn some up for me to match the chisel/augers i already had.
jon
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Post by lynx on Nov 20, 2008 21:17:26 GMT
Jon. Do you have a photo to explain this better. I seem to remember this set-up but along time ago.
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Post by jonnyd on Nov 20, 2008 21:43:16 GMT
I cant help you out tonight but i can take a picture at work tommorow for you.
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Post by jonnyd on Nov 21, 2008 22:06:12 GMT
Chisel clamp  Collet  The auger is held in by a allen headed machine screw onto a flat on the auger. Jon |
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Post by lynx on Nov 21, 2008 22:10:22 GMT
ahh, so you used top-hats to secure the various sized augers into the head?
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Post by jonnyd on Nov 21, 2008 22:15:31 GMT
Yup the top hat is the shiny bit at the bottom. I dont know if all multico machines are the same. I think mine was made in the early nineties.
jon
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Post by lynx on Nov 21, 2008 22:18:43 GMT
from what i see, it look the same. If you don't mind, can you explain how to set both the chisel and auger in place (what order)
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Post by jonnyd on Nov 21, 2008 22:46:38 GMT
Hi the chisel clamps in at the bottom of the casting like most morticers. The top hat has a hole in the centre to correspond to the auger bit. There is also a hole in the side of the top hat to allow the auger to be clamped to the machine. The auger also has a flat milled on it to allow the auger to be clamped.
So the sequence is set the chisel. Loosen the allen keyed bolt. Push the top hat into its housing lining up the hole in the side with the allen keyed bolt. Then put the auger in with the flat facing the bolt and then tighten up the bolt to secure everything.
I hope you understand that its really quite simple but difficult to explain.
jon
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Post by lynx on Nov 22, 2008 18:09:24 GMT
Jon
Thanks for the help. The M3 has top hot where the chisel sits. This reduces from 13/16" to around 3/4". I place the new chisel striaght into the machine but had to grind a flat out the side to allow the bolt passage. It also has the top hat for the auger that you mentioned. So i guess i need a set of these to suit smaller diameter augers then. it is very easy to set-up as you stated, It just sounded complicated
All in all, a nice little machine. Bits of crap wedged in placed but i'll give it a good clean after these winodws are out the way.
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Post by jonnyd on Nov 22, 2008 19:28:00 GMT
Glad to here you have got the Multico installed.
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. Other than that its great and easy to adjust / set up .
