HELLO FOLKS

[justadaftjoiner]

As you can see by my name I'm a mere joiner and not half as skilled as you furniture makers but Ive just added to my shed which is about 22ft x 9ft and going to start dabbling with small pieces to start with but most of my tools are for site work really so i will be looking for a bandsaw/planer thickener to start with on a limited budget any links to either reconditioned or well priced machines will be appreciated thanks

PS. great site you have here

[smudger]

Wotcha!

[jfc]

I'm just a mere joiner myself but i think Mr G will back me up in saying we are a special breed ;D
Welcome to the forum .

[justadaftjoiner]

hi smudge jfc phew I'm not alone then oh yeah were special breed OK its like an open air asylum out there some days

[jfc]

It doesnt get any better on here ;D

[paulchapman]

Welcome, justadaftjoiner.

I'm just a hobby woodworker - an even more special breed ;D

Cheers

Paul

[engineerone]

welcome, it is just a different style of mad house.

for the low end of the price range, you have to consider the sizes of the wood you are going to use.

i have the mafell 160 p/t which is reasonably portable,
but there are a couple cheaper or you can get something like a scheppach 260.

otherwise like jason, look on ebay.

but give yourself a decent idea of the wood you intend to use
that should guide you towards the type of machinery to buy.

paul

[lynx]

Welcome.

What sort of budget do you have in mind?

[jfc]

I bought one machine off ebay from a joinery company about two years ago . The rest are new or second hand from know sources .

[mrgrimsdale]

Nov 21, 2008 21:32:31 GMT jfc said:

I'm just a mere joiner myself but i think Mr G will back me up in saying we are a special breed ;D
Welcome to the forum .

dunno there's some right f*** ing loonies about

[colincott]

Hi justadaftjoiner

Welcome to the mad house

I am Cabinet maker and have repair Antiques for almost 25 years.

Your space is about the same as mine.

Have a look on ebay as said and you should get some good deals.

Do you know what size bandsaw you are looking at getting yet?
It will help if we see anything that might suite you.

[dom]

Hi Justadaftjoiner, welcome.
Yup, Jason's special alright

[mrgrimsdale]

Nov 21, 2008 21:22:33 GMT justadaftjoiner said:

As you can see by my name I'm a mere joiner and not half as skilled as you furniture makers but Ive just added to my shed which is about 22ft x 9ft and going to start dabbling with small pieces to start with but most of my tools are for site work really so i will be looking for a bandsaw/planer thickener to start with on a limited budget any links to either reconditioned or well priced machines will be appreciated thanks

PS. great site you have here

Band saw is handy, but if I was starting out with just one machine I'd consider a table saw. It rips, crosscuts, dimensions, and with a good blade produces a very clean surface which then only needs a quick pass with a hand plane. And the blades last a lot longer than a bandsaw so it's cheaper to run.

[engineerone]

the problem with a table saw in the small workshop is the amount of space it takes up.

if you are ever going to use panels, then you need a space of about 16 ft x16 ft so work one safely.

you could of coures build jason's wall rack, upright saw device
which is a two in one device, other wise one of the circular saw and rail systems has many advantages within the space that you have available.

paul

[jfc]

A combi may be the way to go ?

[mrgrimsdale]

Nov 22, 2008 10:11:31 GMT engineerone said:

the problem with a table saw in the small workshop is the amount of space it takes up.

if you are ever going to use panels, then you need a space of about 16 ft x16 ft so work one safely.

you could of coures build jason's wall rack, upright saw device
which is a two in one device, other wise one of the circular saw and rail systems has many advantages within the space that you have available.

paul

But a bandsaw is no good at all for sheet. You can only cut to the throat depth and it's not a clean cut. Jason's vertical arrangement better. And a table saw for spars, shoulders etc. Combi even better

[engineerone]

since i have a dewalt 744, which although small, but does cut up to 600 wide, i know whereof i speak in relation to the amount of space it takes or could take, to use it to its full advantage.

as i said earlier, it is important to know what you are going to use and make before buying anything.

if you are a joiner, then you are likely to be pretty handy with a circular saw, so one of the most recent saw/ rail combinations has many advantages, and allows you to make a dismantleable table only the size of a panel as a cutting base.

a combi is valuable but still has the same basic problem if your shop is only 9 feet wide.

paul

[jfc]

But you get that problem as soon as you lay the sheet down . Once the sheet is broken down a table saw is far easier to use .

[dom]

Table saw, no brainer.

[engineerone]

with a cutting table, you are always able to work within the
8x4 dimensions, allowing you to have a couple of feet on either side to reach over.

however i do agree that once you get to a manageable size the table saw works, although there is also the question of making a proper cross cut sled, or buying one with a proper sliding table and support since, if i remember what scrit said, table saws were designed for ripping really.

and then of course for pieces under 12 inches wide, an scms would be preferable.

or of course you could be really old fashioned, and get a radial arm saw.
paul

[colincott]

Now I am going to put the cat among the pigeons

You have about the same space that I do ( mine is 22' x 10' ) and I use to have a tablesaw but now have a rail and skill saw system.

Which for me has been much better by far and safer too when cutting boards.
I also have a bandsaw, which with the two, gets all my cutting needs done.

If you have the space to lay a sheat on some treasles, then I would not rule it out plus it can be put away much easier if I need to.

[justadaftjoiner]

I have a table saw that i use on site 110v metabo 315 tkhs also a dewalt 707 and 718 sliding mitre saws so i would try to get by with these . As for the wood i would be using the bandsaw and planer/thickneser for wouldn't be to big mostly oak and beech . thanks again guys