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Post by joe on Oct 18, 2007 21:15:20 GMT
What is the correct trade term for the pine used in say bedroom type furniture?
I have heard so many different names used I am tempted to think sellers just enjoy the look of confusion on my face!
If I was in Australia I would buy Hoop Pine or Red Deal and know exactly what it was.
Perhaps someone could explain the terms used.
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Post by Scrit on Oct 18, 2007 21:38:58 GMT
I'm afraid that I've just censored and removed the first three replies from other trade members. Would you care to rephrase the question? ;D
I know that up until a few years back the better quality pine furniture was being made from hemlock because of the finer grain and relatively knot-free structure - this makes it much more suitable for high-speed machining. Some of the stuff you see around these days is utter ****. The Americans have been pushing southern yellow pine as a viable urniture product. Personally I find the stuff far too prone to movement
Scrit
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Post by dexteria on Oct 18, 2007 23:10:40 GMT
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Post by mrgrimsdale on Oct 19, 2007 8:32:36 GMT
The basic joinery pine is called "redwood" and is one species; Scots Pine. The best stuff is imported from northern europe mainly Sweden but also Russia and Finland. Different timber yards may use different importers who may use different sawmills in the various countries so you get a lot of variation, and they all have different marking systems but this means that any sawn board can be identified.
Best is Swedish "unsorted" which includes what would have been graded as 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th qualities. So the next Swedish grade after unsorted is 5th - good for most ordinary joinery etc.
Russian "unsorted" goes 1st to 3rd so next grade is 4th.
Then there are a whole lot of other true varieties of pines from Europe and America, then another vast array of softwoods which are like pines. and so on.
So if you can get swedish "unsorted" you will have consistent high quality, but there is better stuff for furniture. For all the other options you have to rely on the woodyard, they all have different stock ranges. You just have to go in there and talk to them. Ideally an elderly rep in the office, not a young tw*t in the yard.
Some of them know FA about anything, some of them can tell you everything you need to know, some of them will have just what you want but won't know it themselves etc etc.
good hunting!
Jacob
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Post by dom on Oct 19, 2007 17:34:27 GMT
Glad I'm not just starting
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Post by TonyW on Oct 19, 2007 22:00:27 GMT
Jacob, what a reply (I am even more confused than usual) - I had no idea about all the variations. How do you learn to choose and recognize the correct species? Any good reading matter on the subject you could rec.? As to the young tw*t in the yard - have met him a couple of times - never found the elderly rep in the office though  So I am off to find a good merchant (Scrit once pointed me in the right direction elsewhere) Cheers Tony |
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Post by dantovey on Oct 24, 2007 16:28:18 GMT
Whenever I've made pine furniture I've used Quebec Yellow Pine in preference to Scandinavian redwood - its far superior. Also known as Eastern White Pine.
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