Screws

[pj]

I went to buy more carcass screws today and was offered Screw-Tite branded ones as another alternative, but at substantially more money than the £6 a 1000 for carcass screws. They looked good, but is there any benefit in them. Am I missing something.

Do you tradey guys go for quality or quantity?

[jfc]

I never buy cheap screws , it's just not worth it when you spend most of your time trying to get the snapped ones out .

[TonyW]

JFC - Do you think you may be screwing too hard ;D

[pj]

I think lubrication helps.

[dom]

I only use Spax or Reisser, there may be cheaper ones but I doubt they're as good.
These don't snap, least not for me.

[Scrit]

1. Spax
2. Hospa (from Häfele)
3. Reisser

All the above will pull into just about anything (Spax will pull into many plastics) without shearing (providinmg you pilot as/when required). On the other hand if you insist on buying cheap, second-rate crap from B&Q, Screwfix and, yes, Travis Perkins then you get the second rate crap you deserve. So quality - the first time you have to drill out, pellet and redrill and refix is when the money you've saved open that box of cheap screws bites you in the derrière - the seconfd time is when you loose your rag and hoik them in the bin!

Scrit

[jfc]

Thats where all the screws go that are supplied with run of the mill hardware , straight in the bin and i use my own .

[dom]

jfc said:

Thats where all the screws go that are supplied with run of the mill hardware , straight in the bin and i use my own .

I keep them all, so when people from the shops on the farm come in asking for screws-(Don't even go there Colin) I say help yourself and point to the crap boxes.
If they insist on Spax it's 10p a screw, which considering the nearest shed is a 10 mile roundtrip it's cheap.

[Alf]

Even as an ignorant amateur I throw away the hardware screws. Well actually I put them in the "assorted" box and then can go "tut tut" as my dad tries to use them before stepping in with a decent example and saving the day.

We must all get our entertainment where we can find it... ;D

Cheers, Alf

[gazza]

pj said:

I went to buy more carcass screws today and was offered Screw-Tite branded ones as another alternative, but at substantially more money than the £6 a 1000 for carcass screws. They looked good, but is there any benefit in them. Am I missing something.

Do you tradey guys go for quality or quantity?

Quality every time unless you want to give yourself grief, when it comes to fixings, always buy the best you can afford.
Spax are a quality screw, never had any problems with them.

Screwfix done a test of all the screws they sell, and Spax came out on top.
Cheers,
Gazza.

[jfc]

Dom , do you actually take the 10p off them ?

[engineerone]

i'm surprised it was only 10p ;D

personally i buy spax most then reisser. i bought a couple of box loads when they were on special. still not gone through the lot

kind of shows how few i use these days, since i glue and clamp
mainly

paul

[cnc paul]

Jason, It's Radlett thats 20p a screw country



CNC Paul

[gazza]

Personally,I like to screw, Paul
;D ;D ;D
Cheers,
Gazza.

[dom]

jfc said:

Dom , do you actually take the 10p off them ?

Depends who it is, there are a couple of people there who I really dislike

[joe]

Recently I was getting slivers(?) of alloy embedding in my thumb and index finger from one box of Spax.
Not a happy screwing experience at all.

[dom]

joe said:

Recently I was getting slivers(?) of alloy embedding in my thumb and index finger from one box of Spax.
Not a happy screwing experience at all.

Toooooo many jokes ;D

[colincott]

dom said:

jfc said:

Thats where all the screws go that are supplied with run of the mill hardware , straight in the bin and i use my own .

I keep them all, so when people from the shops on the farm come in asking for screws-(Don't even go there Colin) I say help yourself and point to the crap boxes.
If they insist on Spax it's 10p a screw, which considering the nearest shed is a 10 mile roundtrip it's cheap.

Same here
I put the screws you get with hardware in the bin

Dom

I will have to look at any screws I get offered a little closer now you have let the cat out the bag

Most of the screw I use have been Reisser but I can show you all a very quick way of getting broken screws out that just need some 6mm or 13 mm plugs for the holes ;D

By the way it also can be used for broken screws in table tops without going through

[mooretoolsplease]

Hospa or Reisser here, I dont think I would ever buy screws from any of the sheds, as I find these brands are cheaper anyway, especially with the big screws 5 x 100's and such

[dexteria]

I use Screw-tite as well as spax. Out of the two I prefer the Screw-tite as they have a finer thread at the tip that helps them start easily.

Probably of no real relevance but when I worked as an Engineer at NCR (cash machine manufacurer) we used Tap-tite and Plas-tites almost exclusevely in metal and plastic due to their "superior thread froming tri-lobular design" ;D

Cheers

Mark

[mrspanton]

I used to use the secwfix bog standard silver or gold ones but tried a sample pack of spax and prefer tham now. They havent snapped, a few times the screwfix ones did Even roofer's use spax now

[dom]

In fact Spax are now so popular that my local B&Q has stopped selling them

[royclarke]

I just wish I could find as wide a range of square drive screws as people in Canada have access to. Including bronze countersink. I use the torx drive spax, but square would be better. Pozidrive is horrid to look at.

[pj]

If a screw snaps I won't buy that brand again, so at present Screwfix and Axminster's own brands, and a cheaper brand from the local builder's merchants are out. I've been using Reisser more and more because they are easy to get locally, but I have never broke a black carcass screw to date, but then I really only use them in Kitchen carcasses and chipboard and thats probably not that often. From the answers and views above I will give the Screw-Tite a go as I could use them for other jobs in MDF and hardwood etc.

Thanks for giving me a well deserved kick in the you know what!

Philip

[dom]

Er, pj, you asked our advice and everyone, except Dexteria suggested Spax, hospa and reisser, just curious why the screw- tite