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Post by Lord Nibbo on Jan 8, 2008 22:00:11 GMT
I've designed a cupboard unit to match the existing drawer unit made in American Black Walnut. This is a pic of the drawer unit. This project will also be made from ABW. Here are some pics of the design. Slightly bigger than the drawer unit, this is 52" long and 24" high Made to match an existing draw unit this cupboard will have two hinged doors to the left and right and the centre door will be hinged from the bottom. Not very good rendering I know but this pic gives a taste of what it will look like, even without the doors fitted.
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Post by Lord Nibbo on Jan 8, 2008 22:02:43 GMT
Wooops! didn't realize how big the pics were. Any problems and I'll delete them and add a url link instead. Just let me know quickly.... Been back and attacked the pics with a chopper
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Post by andy on Jan 8, 2008 22:08:51 GMT
Full sized drawings then
or is that your rod ;D
looking good your lordship
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Post by Lord Nibbo on Jan 8, 2008 22:11:43 GMT
Full sized drawings then or is that your rod ;D looking good your lordship Sort of, just had a thought maybe I could use the pics and trace out the plans,
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Post by dom on Jan 9, 2008 7:02:14 GMT
I liked the first one LN so this will match up nicely.
Question: what type of hinges will you use and how will the flap hold open ?
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Post by Lord Nibbo on Jan 9, 2008 9:46:22 GMT
I liked the first one LN so this will match up nicely. Question: what type of hinges will you use and how will the flap hold open ? I've got a pair of stays the same as what I used on my HiFi unit as seen in this pic I shall use little ball catches for the fastners on the doors. For hinges using euro type kitchen hinges did cross my mind but they are so big and ugly, and as the doors are all flush fitted I suppose small brass butt hinges would suffice. Has anyone got a better suggestion? Talking of the doors, I intend them to be flat panels with all the grain running vertical (The draw unit was horizontal) They are all 16" wide x 18" High and 3/4" thick and I do see problems with warping. I don't want any visual rails on the front but I could rebate rails in the back of the doors to help stop any warping, do you think 16" is asking too much regarding a cross grain situation? or should I just leave them flat panels with all the grain running the same way?
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Post by nickw on Jan 9, 2008 11:04:32 GMT
If you don't want to see the hinges at all then the Soss or Barrell/Cylinder type are probably your best bet. Isaac Lord stock both types.
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Post by Lord Nibbo on Jan 9, 2008 11:14:18 GMT
If you don't want to see the hinges at all then the Soss or Barrell/Cylinder type are probably your best bet. Isaac Lord stock both types. Never thought of using them, and I do have some might need some more though.
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Post by dom on Jan 9, 2008 17:49:42 GMT
I think you should run a couple of rails in the back of the doors LN, but even then there are no guarantees.
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Post by engineerone on Jan 9, 2008 18:38:14 GMT
ln looks good, but why not make the doors out of veneered mdf, even if you have to veneer yourself, it would certainly be more stable. paul
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Post by Lord Nibbo on Jan 10, 2008 8:31:27 GMT
Both Doms and engineerones are good alternatives. I've never done any veneering perhaps I ought try it out on a test piece
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Post by Lord Nibbo on Jan 26, 2008 14:19:40 GMT
So it beginsWith the 1" boards acclimatised and cut over length by approximately 4” to allow me to cut off any snipe every piece was edged on one edge and faced on the jointer/planer then passed through the thicknesser down to 7/8th. I'll leave it now for a day or two before finally thicknessing down to 3/4". I would estimate 25% contains sapwood so a lot of sawing gluing and a lot of selecting the best faces are going to be the order of the day to cut down on a lot of waste. More to follow
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Post by dom on Jan 26, 2008 19:49:29 GMT
Mmmmm, you can almost smell the walnut, no, I actually can. That's spooky.
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Post by Lord Nibbo on Jan 31, 2008 12:09:39 GMT
After four days led on my back from lifting something I shouldn't of I managed to do some more on the cupboard this morning First I laid out all the boards ready for ripping to maximise yeald and cutting all the sapwood out. Here is a pic of the shorter lengths ripped down and all the waste All edges jointed, next step glue up into wider boards and thickness to 3/4" Rather a lot of waste though
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Post by Telos on Jan 31, 2008 15:52:53 GMT
Oooh! I like the way you've snuck in a gratuitous picture of a JessEm MiteRexcel I was thinking about collecting, err, I mean buying one of those. Is it all shiny and aluminium like and like... or is it a waste of money?
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Post by Lord Nibbo on Jan 31, 2008 16:18:22 GMT
Oooh! I like the way you've snuck in a gratuitous picture of a JessEm MiteRexcel I was thinking about collecting, err, I mean buying one of those. Is it all shiny and aluminium like and like... or is it a waste of money? ;D Is it a waste of Money? No way, pure perfection.
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Post by Lord Nibbo on Jan 31, 2008 16:18:53 GMT
This afternoon I biscuited all the top Then glued up the top in two halfs Tomorrow I'll glue the two together then do the same to make up the two end panels.
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Post by jaco on Jan 31, 2008 16:33:31 GMT
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Post by Lord Nibbo on Feb 1, 2008 15:55:10 GMT
The top is fully glued up. The two ends still in two halves so one more glue up finishes the main panels. This pic shows the underside of the main top, so don't worry about the odd sap wood showing. You can't have enough clamps can you.
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Post by Lord Nibbo on Feb 3, 2008 18:58:08 GMT
So the real woodwork really begins here in my view. Starting with a good scrape, it gets a much better finish than sanding. A bit of TLC for the end panels too. 90deg cut, I had to break out my big sled for this, my normal panel sledge wasn't big enough. Both end panels got mitred down one side only but both were mitered to length to ensure they were exactly the same length The top piece and both the end panels get their final edges mitred all together to ensure they are exactly the same width The top mitred on all four edges and both ends mitred on three edges Both end panels have 3/8" deep 1/2" wide stopped dado's for the bottom board The top upside down is placed on the cramps, they are pulled up so the are just snug to the end of the mitres The vertical clamps do all the work, the horizontal clamps stop the side panel from spreading The two stays make sure it's at 90deg and fillets for added strength
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Post by Lord Nibbo on Feb 4, 2008 17:40:45 GMT
Both end are on, the bottom has been cut to size and routed out for the divider panels which have also been cut ready to fit. I still need to rout out the the underside of the top for the dividers but I have already marked out where to cut.
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Post by mailee on Feb 4, 2008 17:52:44 GMT
Looking really good so far. I like Dom swear I can smell the Walnut too, hmmm. Oh and by the way in the first picture is that your van in the background as it looks like the reg is 'Vietnam'
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Post by Lord Nibbo on Feb 5, 2008 11:57:23 GMT
Oh and by the way in the first picture is that your van in the background as it looks like the reg is 'Vietnam' No such luck, it's just a plain ordinary number. I don't go in for wasting money on flashy number plates, I rather buy a nice new shiny tool
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Post by Lord Nibbo on Feb 5, 2008 11:58:42 GMT
The unit is still upside down. The bottom and dividing panels get fitted. The bottom is glued into the dado for only about five inches at the front, to add strength a fillet has been added near the front edge on both ends. The left hand (remember it's upside down) face piece gets glued on, no pins (my names not Norm) At the rear a slotted block has been glued to the end panel but screwed to the bottom, the slot will allow any movement of the end panel. Same procedure for the right hand face piece. Here is a better pic of the left hand piece after the glue had gone off.
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Post by Lord Nibbo on Feb 6, 2008 16:24:00 GMT
The unit the correct way up but I had to screw some planks on the bottom temporarily as it’s longer than my assembly table. All the face pieces fitted, just the doors to do on the front now. I might start the back and leave the doors to the very last thing. Whatever I cant do anymore until at least Sunday
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