Homage to Alan Peters

[modernist]

I saw this stool in an exhibition and was so taken by it's simplicity and effectiveness I copied it - but only from memory. I think the original had through tenons but I capped them with ABW to match the foot. I used Olive ash but I think the original was different. Anyone remember seeing it?




AP has done some great things.

Brian

[paulchapman]

Didn't see the original but I really like the design of that - particularly the foot. Brilliant if you need lots of stability.

Like you, I think Alan Peters is great - fantastic craftsmanship and some very innovative designs, and such a modest bloke.

Cheers

Paul

[modernist]

I agree - I thought I was taking a risk tenonning the foot leg into the top as there is no allowance for movement. I happened to have a quarter sawn piece of ash and moved the tenons close together and it has been OK. Unfortunately I could not remenber how AP jointed that leg - no doubt in a better way

Despite that risk I am pleased with the finished result as I think the ABW tenon caps balance the contrast of the foot and the OA is very nice in itself.

Brian

[Lord Nibbo]

Wow, very nicely done.
Now that chunky heavy design is right up my street, just love it. Bookmarked for tuit. ;D

[mrgrimsdale]

Nice piece Brian.

paulchapman said:

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I think Alan Peters is great - fantastic craftsmanship and some very innovative designs, and such a modest bloke.

His book is good, though I suppose some of his designs are starting to look a bit dated - nothing ages faster than new radical design!
And modest too, compare and contrast old big-head bullshitter Jim K ;D

cheers
Jacob

[modernist]

mrgrimsdale said:

Nice piece Brian.

paulchapman said:

snip
I think Alan Peters is great - fantastic craftsmanship and some very innovative designs, and such a modest bloke.

His book is good, though I suppose some of his designs are starting to look a bit dated - nothing ages faster than new radical design!


I think is was/is a good book but spoiled by the poor publishing as are all that school (was it Stobart?) they seem to take the life and passion out of the best material.


And modest too, compare and contrast old big-head bullshitter Jim K ;D

Please have consideration for my blood pressure I got banned from _{the other side} for my views on that- at least his books wer decently published - even in paperback

cheers
Jacob

[modernist]

lordnibbo said:

Now that chunky heavy design is right up my street, just love it. Bookmarked for tuit. ;D

Glad you like it - hope you were not offended by my JK comment on your stand/stool. It was meant constructively

Brian

[Lord Nibbo]

modernist said:

lordnibbo said:

Now that chunky heavy design is right up my street, just love it. Bookmarked for tuit. ;D

Glad you like it - hope you were not offended by my JK comment on your stand/stool. It was meant constructively

Brian

Not at all, I couldn't think how to describe it, JK's name sort of fit the bill. Anyway it's all down to opinions and only mine counts. ;D

[Lord Nibbo]

Talking of Alan Peters, I'm sure David C mentioned in his blog only a few days ago about a reprint or was I imagining it .

Yes he did it's HERE

[paulchapman]

modernist said:

I think is was/is a good book but spoiled by the poor publishing as are all that school (was it Stobart?) they seem to take the life and passion out of the best material.

Yes, excellent book but lousy printing of the illustrations. They are supposed to be updating and re-printing it this year, so I hope that the quality of the printing is better.

Cheers

Paul

[robo]

Bullshit
Jim K - Jim Kingshott - surely not?
James K - James Krenov - maybe? - I know Jacob is a big fan of his!!!
;D ;D ;D

R

[modernist]

[/quote]

Yes, excellent book but lousy printing of the illustrations. They are supposed to be updating and re-printing it this year, so I hope that the quality of the printing is better.

Cheers

Paul[/quote]

I don't think it was only the pictures, unfortunately; they seem to impart a tedious image to the book as a whole IMHO

Yes I did read DC's comment that it was about to be re-published so we will wait and see. Perhaps my copy will become "Heirloom Quality" so beloved of our American cousins, then I can sell it and update ;D

[mrgrimsdale]

modernist said:

Yes, excellent book but lousy printing of the illustrations. They are supposed to be updating and re-printing it this year, so I hope that the quality of the printing is better.

Cheers

Paul

I don't think it was only the pictures, unfortunately; they seem to impart a tedious image to the book as a whole IMHO

Yes I did read DC's comment that it was about to be re-published so we will wait and see. Perhaps my copy will become "Heirloom Quality" so beloved of our American cousins, then I can sell it and update ;D

1984 my edition but yes it's got a sort of 50s feel about it, though the actual book quality is high - the paper, bindings etc . Too high in some respects as much of the running a business info is doomed to be out of date very quickly.
The content is a bit loosely put together too.
I found the brief history of the craft furniture industry most interesting as it seems to contain all the names that used to get mentioned so often _overthere and makes you realise what a small closed world it represents; somehow with no sense of tradition or rather a tradition that just goes back to W Morris.

cheers
Jacob

[modernist]

[quote author=mrgrimsdale board=projects thread=1205187087 post=1205251769I found the brief history of the craft furniture industry most interesting as it seems to contain all the names that used to get mentioned so often _overthere and makes you realise what a small closed world it represents; somehow with no sense of tradition or rather a tradition that just goes back to W Morris.

cheers
Jacob[/quote]

I am sure you will be impressed to learn that the much maligned Mr Krenov was initially influenced by a Scandinavian follower of Morris called Malmsten or something similarly viking

Brian

[mrgrimsdale]

modernist said:

[quote author=mrgrimsdale board=projects thread=1205187087 post=1205251769I found the brief history of the craft furniture industry most interesting as it seems to contain all the names that used to get mentioned so often _overthere and makes you realise what a small closed world it represents; somehow with no sense of tradition or rather a tradition that just goes back to W Morris.

cheers
Jacob

I am sure you will be impressed to learn that the much maligned Mr Krenov was initially influenced by a Scandinavian follower of Morris called Malmsten or something similarly viking

Brian[/quote]Well he says he was but he tends to be a bit vague about it in the things I've read. Also you can't see any obvious influence.
He also says he worked as a boat builder and here you certainly can see the influence. Much of his stuff resembles the sort of joinery you expect to find in a yacht - sort of posh but practical shop fitting.

cheers
Jacob

[modernist]

You did read the books after all then - I thought you couldn't bear any more after the drawer bottom grooves

[modernist]

I agree the influence isn't obvious -as is the case with much of Alan Peters work, but I thik it is more in the uncompromising approach to the work and the pursuit of excellence.

I hate octagonal post tops and panels anyway its so ...so... unorganic ;D

Brian

[wizer]

very nice piece.

I had no idea who Alan Peters was until you posted. That'll give me something to google tonight

[paulchapman]

wizer said:

I had no idea who Alan Peters was until you posted.

Rob Cosman has a DVD with Alan Peters "The Alan Peters Approach". I've not seen it but if you scroll down on Rob's site there's a brief preview showing the man himself - who, unfortunately, is rather old now www.robcosman.com/dvd.php

Cheers

Paul

[modernist]

I saw him at the last Axmister show and he looked very frail then.

He has made a great contribution and a legacy for us all. I still have his garden bench from Woodworker about 30 years ago in the garden. He managed a fresh and innovative approach to design, cleverly incorporating ancient Oriental influences without losing his contemporary feel and never deviating from the highest standards of craftsmanship.

You can't do much better than that

Brian

[wrongnail]

[quote
I think Alan Peters is great -
And modest too, compare and contrast old big-head bullshitter Jim K ;D

cheers
Jacob[/quote]

Jacob:
I haven't quite been able to sort out which J K you mean. You used 'Jim' so surely you don't mean Jim Kingshott?

Brian, that's a very nice piece of work and it looks just the thing for use in the workshop, for dovetailing! (From a robustness' point of view of course! ;D) Being not much younger than AP himself, I sometimes have to sit or kneel down to chop dovetails.)

Regards...

John

[modernist]

[quote author=wrongnail board=projects thread=1205187087 post=1205754416
Jacob:
it looks just the thing for use in the workshop, for dovetailing! (From a robustness' point of view of course! ;D) Being not much younger than AP himself, I sometimes have to sit or kneel down to chop dovetails.)

Regards...

John [/quote]

Its certainly in the "sturdy outhouse" class for robustness and wouldn't win any prizes for frugal use of timber/strength. I've made a few now and one I know is doing service in Beeston as a plant stand some plant

One problem ws that I finished them in Danish oil which has now yellowed and removed some of the drama from the timber.

Any thought anyone (without a spray shop)


Brian