Saws

[jfc]

Just picked this one up from ebay

cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=120178564919&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=002

[dom]

Whatcha gonna do wiv dat den Jase ? ;D

[jfc]

Ask Colin to sharpen it for me of course .

[engineerone]

whilst i agree that colin is good at sharpening jason,
i must say COWARD ;D


not a bad price though

and of course then you will have to learn how to saw

paul

[jfc]

I already know how to saw . You press the button and push down ;D

[engineerone]

didn't see the button on that saw

paul

[colincott]

Did someone call

Shall I tell all the nice people what was wrong with the saw that you did sharpen or will you

[jfc]

Lets just say once you start sharpening a saw dont leave and go back to it .

[dom]

He's using it as a butter knife

[colincott]

dom said:

He's using it as a butter knife

Thats half melted

[dirtydeeds]

here we go........................... im going to commit herasy again

as good as distons etc are they are a lot of hard work to keep them set and sharpened

i use japanese saws, the finished cut is better and cutting on the pull stroke and the fine kerf all helps. they are also shorter which i find useful

it takes a while to get used to them

advertising of japanese saws makes much of the speed of cut. I find no discernable difference

[mrgrimsdale]

How do you sharpen the jap saws? I heard you had to send them back to Japan to this little old geezer who lives in a cave half way up Mt Fuji and it takes 6 months. Is this true?
cheers
Jacob

[dirtydeeds]

the saws never come back so i started buying new blades

[jfc]

I use the jap saws aswell and they are great for cutting tenon shoulders etc but i found the teeth knock off very easy and a new blade is the same as buying a new saw which is what i am trying to get away from .

[colincott]

mrgrimsdale said:

How do you sharpen the jap saws? I heard you had to send them back to Japan to this little old geezer who lives in a cave half way up Mt Fuji and it takes 6 months. Is this true?
cheers
Jacob

They can be sharpened but I dont think it is as straight forward as a european saw.

Mr Kingshot did his own ( it was in the of the mags he wrote for ) but they have three cutting egdes

[dirtydeeds]

each tooth has three cutting edges

i dont know how they set the teeth



i havent knocked off teeth unless ive hit a nail

[jfc]

Thinking about it the teeth came off when i was cleaning up wedged mortice and tenons so it's the glue that did it .

[Scrit]

dirtydeeds said:

As good as Disstons etc are they are a lot of hard work to keep them set and sharpened

You could say the same for sharpening chisels or plane irons but not everyone runs off to buy those planes with disposable blades (Rali or the like?). I was taught how to top, sharpen and set a saw but I rarely do as I don't use hand saws that much. But it's nice to know how. As to whether or not you can/want top get used to a completely different cutting action then that's another discussion altogether.

Different strokes for different folks I'd saw, sorry say

Scrit

[dirtydeeds]

i agree with that it took about a month before i was hooked on the cutting action of japanese saws

ive looked at rali planes but still cant get my head round a plane that has no weight

to my mind a plane with no weight chatters or stops dead, i went the other way with my block plane and bought a veritas

[engineerone]

having got a couple of rali's i find the major problem is
feeling secure that the blade stays at the same depth all the time.

that push action for holding the blade down is a bit contra indicating.

mind you does make a nice site plane, which you know ain't gonna get nicked

paul