Joint of the Month #1

[Alf]

Okay, let's take this idea for a spin. Starting with a simple joint but it does provide a few options for how to create it and using tools from the simple to the specialised. The idea is you have a go yourself - be it just once, every day for the rest of the month or something in between - and share your results, triumphs, disasters, whatever. And remember! Hand Tools Only.

Through housing joint, aka "dado". Ooo, I said the D word...

[paulchapman]

That's a good one, Alf. Not always as simple as it looks.

Cheers

Paul

[Lord Nibbo]

toobyefore said:

And remember! Hand Tools Only.

Thats not fair ;D

[andy]

Excellent Alf

hi ho hi ho off to the workshop I must go

[robo]

Is a housing still a housing on a 1" wide piece of wood.

Very easy to make with a tenon saw and chisel over that width.

Perhaps a minimum width should be part of the rules?

R.

[Sparky]

toobyefore said:

every day for the rest of the month or something in between

Wow Ill need to get more wood then

Sparky

[Scrit]

Am I allowed to show my self-adjusting router through housing jig here? To a "machine head" like me a portable router is a hand tool.....

and FFS this is a dado (the knobbly bit in the middle of the panel):



Hat, coat.....

Scrit

[heavyweek]

A sharp knife, a batten, two nails, a hammer and a shoulder plane (you never specified the width of the housing). Oh and a bit of elbow grease

[dirtydeeds]

if that dado rail is 30 inches off the floor it isnt a dado rail

its a chair rail

[Alf]

scrit said:

and FFS this is a dado (the knobbly bit in the middle of the panel):

Just won a fiver off myself... I was making allowances for the international nature of the membership - viz: 'Murricans and other aliens. ;D Any other names for the joint that should be added, chuck 'em into the thread as well.

As for rules, well partially this is to see if we need any, but it's not a competition and the only person you'd be cheating is yourself (anyone else get that talk at school...? ;D) So make it any size you like or want to practice. Router jigs and so forth, I think, should be elsewhere, otherwise what's the point of the hand tools board anyway? (Okay, spare me the funny replies) But if the thread here spawns one on the powered alternatives, that's gotta be a Good Thing too, yes?

Cheers, Alf

[jfc]

If it goes to power tools Nikki will make a jig for every joint ;D

[Scrit]

dirtydeeds said:

if that dado rail is 30 inches off the floor it isnt a dado rail

its a chair rail

According to the Victorian society they were originally one and the same with the height being set to protect the wall from chair backs. So the height could and did vary. Why (or how) do you differentiate between the two?

Scrit

[engineerone]

is not the difference something to do with the height of laths in a plaster wall, being the height of a dado, whereas the chair rail has more to do with the practice after queen anne of pushing the chairs toward the walls for dancing etc and the lack of other wall coverings to protect them.

of course the shakers put their chair rail up high, cause that's where they were hung ;D

paul

[dirtydeeds]

another reason for installing chair rails, not just dancing was the quality of the "staff"


poor quality "staff" would throw the chairs against the wall to clean the room




as for scrits question, about the 30 inch dimension, thats how it came down to me

im not questioning the victorian society but chair rails / dados where in use well before victorian times

however it does indicate that the 30 inch dimension is arbitry

[houtslager]

would a joint made with a chainsaw and an ADZE come under power tools or hand tools ?










hat, coat walking stick ........................door

[Scrit]

houtslager said:

would a joint made with a chainsaw and an ADZE come under power tools or hand tools ?

You be barred from both sections IMHO ;D

[dirtydeeds]

it all depends on the size of the chainsaw

if its powered by a V8 you couldnt describe it as a hand tool

it needs two rather large north american lumber jacks to lift it

[cnc paul]

This is a nice hand tool !!!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_owXd_MsdXI


CNC Paul

[Scrit]

Interesting, but not a hand tool and not really ideal for a housing joint, I'd say........

[jfc]

So has any one tried this joint ?

[Alf]

jfc said:

So has any one tried this joint ?

Well as I had to play about with this damn plane anyway, I tried making one in something of an unconventional way.


No spur cutters, so pre-scored the lines with a knife and followed up periodically as the cut progressed.


Not as lovely as the skewed cutter of a #46, but surprisingly effective.


Finished housing is clean enough but it's a bloody daft way to cut the joint and barely in the top ten methods I'd have thought. Plus I've managed to make a nasty mark with the side of the depth stop. Grrr.


And behold, the scrap box offers up a piece to fit. Normally you'd size the housing to the work of course, but the plane was the driving factor in this instance so it's not really even a proper entry at all, but fwiw.

Cheers, Alf

[paulchapman]

Very neat, Alf. But you do worry me with that eye-poker-outa or nose-poker-upper method for ensuring that the plane is kept upright

Cheers

Paul

PS Good to see you back

[Alf]

Paul, it worries me that you'd get either your eye or nose close enough.

Cheers, Alf

P.S. Good to be back. See I've missed a few sharpening threads; what a shame...

[paulchapman]

toobyefore said:

Paul, it worries me that you'd get either your eye or nose close enough.

Can I help it that I have a big nose and deteriorating eyesight ;D

Cheers

Paul

[dom]

That's not a nose.......... ;D

Good to have you back Alf.