dunbarhamlin
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Post by dunbarhamlin on Dec 6, 2007 12:58:17 GMT
Not much but tumbleweed, so thought I'd add a note.
Recieived three detail rasps from Gaignard Millon yesterday.
First impression is that form and function seem to be on par with Auriou.
Will give them a proper side by side test this weekend.
Also got an amusing double tanged rasp (no - that'd be silly - a tang at each end - think prickly drawknife)
Cheers
Steve
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Post by Alf on Dec 6, 2007 14:35:57 GMT
C'est magnifique - mais ou est les images? I assume this is the double tanged one? As ever my French, or lack of, lets me down. Cheers, Alf
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andee
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Post by andee on Dec 6, 2007 14:39:33 GMT
merci beacoup pour le "heads-up". Gaignard Millon looks like a supplier worth bookmarking.
Cheers
Andy
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Post by dunbarhamlin on Dec 6, 2007 15:26:27 GMT
Yep, really nice people to deal with, too - didn't even snigger at my shocking quadragenarian schoolboy French.
The double tanged is indeed the lateral rasp (flat both faces, safe edges.)
The other three are a 'frayed' rasp (Râpe éffilée), an 'armchair' rasp (Râpe fauteuil) and a 'sage leaf' rasp (Râpe feuille de sauge.)
Which three styles are equivalent to standard and modeller's Aurious (one flat side) and another with a different radius on each face. (I'll have to work out which is which)
Will try and do pics and guage Auriou grade equivalents at the weekend.
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Post by Alf on Dec 6, 2007 20:01:25 GMT
I like the idea of an armchair rasp, seeing as how most of my woodworking is of an armchair nature at the mo'...  Cheers, Alf |
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Post by noel on Dec 9, 2007 1:14:38 GMT
Why's that Alf? Poorly or just too damn cold? (or caul, as we say in these here parts).
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Post by Alf on Dec 9, 2007 9:15:28 GMT
Mainly a lurgy I just can't seem to shift; that and natural laziness.  Cheers, Alf |
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Post by dunbarhamlin on Dec 9, 2007 19:15:41 GMT
Yum
Can confirm that these are of the same lineage/pedigree/caliber. Rate of cut and finish are the equal of Aurious (least wise, I can't tell the difference.)
Scratching around, I came up with these equivalencies for the Gaignard Millon rasps I have:
150mm Râpe fauteuil
Roughly the shape of an Auriou cabinet makers rasp
The closest equivalent I have is a 175mm grain 13 taper rasp.
I'd say the tooth pattern is slightly tighter on the flat face of the Auriou - so maybe the GM is closer to a 12?
150mm Râpe éffilée
OK, this is an almost exact match for an Auriou 150mm grain 15 taper. Again, perhaps just adjust the grain by 1 - more like a 14 (but I don't one to compare it to)
125mm Râpe feuille de sauge
This is by far the finest grained rasp I have - the above Auriou 150mm grain 15 taper is the closest.
Now, if only I could find my tape, my camera might be next to it...
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Post by noel on Dec 9, 2007 20:48:43 GMT
Mainly a lurgy I just can't seem to shift; that and natural laziness. Cheers, Alf Lucky enough not to have a dose of the lurgy but seem to be susceptable to NL on a regular basis and bugger all cure... Hope the lurgy clears up soon. |
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Post by dunbarhamlin on Dec 9, 2007 23:24:36 GMT
Dreaded lurgy bad. Found camera. Woohoo! Buggered. Damn! So, webcam + monster thread counter + spectacles - nearly gives a pic of the cabinet rasp's teeth:  (from right to left: 150mm Râpe fauteuil Auriou 175mm grain 13 taper 150mm Râpe éffilée Auriou 150mm grain 15 taper) O - forgot about the lateral rasp. Hmmm, weird thing. Need to practice with it more to get the proper angle of attack - cutting with the grain ain't really a very raspy thing to do. I'd gauge it about a grain 11ish. |
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Post by Alf on Dec 10, 2007 9:53:13 GMT
Excellent, Steve - thank you. Possibly just as well my French won't be up to the task of ordering any.  Cheers, Alf |
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Post by dunbarhamlin on Dec 10, 2007 10:25:16 GMT
One of the fellows in the shop is reputed to speak English. Or of course, I'd be happy to forward the pigeon French that worked for me. The sage leaf rasp is an absolute delight. (Why should I be the only addict  ) Steve |
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Post by dom on Dec 10, 2007 19:44:04 GMT
Oh great, we write two words of French and the Goolbots start putting French adverts up the top of the page
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Post by nickw on Dec 10, 2007 19:48:39 GMT
Maybe CHT will start stocking them, then we can order in God's Language. :-D
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Post by engineerone on Dec 10, 2007 20:16:54 GMT
ain't that latin,or maybe even samerian  paul  |
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Post by dom on Dec 10, 2007 20:19:26 GMT
Er, no, Think you'll find it's Aramaic.
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Post by dirtydeeds on Dec 10, 2007 22:19:10 GMT
most people use anglo saxon on site
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Post by colincott on Dec 10, 2007 22:32:55 GMT
Er, no, Think you'll find it's Aramaic. He would know too, I have heard he was there   |
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Post by engineerone on Dec 10, 2007 22:34:18 GMT
what's this aromatic i thought that was why you made italian coffee paul |
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Post by dunbarhamlin on Dec 11, 2007 0:35:49 GMT
Think Esther was one of them.
(or was it Keith Owen)
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