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Post by Scrit on Oct 4, 2007 19:30:44 GMT
Has anyone got an opinion on cordless nailers/pinners? In recent weeks I've used both the Paslode 16g cordless and the Hitachi NR90GC. For framing the Hitachi is a good machine, especially as it uses Passy nails and gas cannisters (although neither is all that cheap), my main complaint being that it really does need ear defenders for use. I would really like to know if there is an equivalent machine which fires full head nails as opposed to clipped or D-heads. Anyone got any ideas, and preferably has anyone used such a beast in trade use and can discuss the merits, maintenance, running costs, etc. In the same line of thought is there an 18g cordless pinner out there yet? Regards Scrit |
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Post by colincott on Oct 5, 2007 0:16:01 GMT
Hi Scrit I have a friend ( yes I do have some )that has the Dewalt cordless nailer and is very happy with it but as you have said they dont come cheap  |
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Post by jfc on Oct 5, 2007 6:28:39 GMT
Yup gotta hand it to Default , their pin gun is the best on the market . I've had two paslode pin guns and both where utter sh*t ! I gave the last one away rather than throw more money at it . The framing nailer however has been one of the best tools I've had .
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Post by Keith on Oct 5, 2007 17:24:56 GMT
DeWalt are bringing out an 18g pinner, I thought it would have been launched by now but haven't seen it. It's going to be about the same price as the 16g and I'm planning to get one.
I've used the DeWalt 16g and own a Paslode angled 16g. The DeWalt is heavy, for a weakling like me anyway, and I like the lightness of the Passy but it's not that reliable especially if you don't keep it clean inside the firing chamber. Plus if you use it in an enclosed room for any time, it stinks like the black pit. When it dies I'll probably get the DeWalt.
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Post by mooretoolsplease on Oct 5, 2007 18:26:46 GMT
I have a paslode 18G and its absolute crap.
Never worked properly since I bought it and its been 'repaired' 3 times.
Seems that there is a problem with the spark, but now I have jut given up with it
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Post by mailee on Oct 16, 2007 11:46:34 GMT
I've got the De Walt 16g cordless nailer and can't fault it. It is expensive but I got mine second hand. I use it for holding things together before screwing mainly. (You know when you need a second pair of hands)  |
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Post by andy king on Oct 16, 2007 16:24:07 GMT
I've heard a couple of times that the Hitachi's seemed to struggle firing upside down for some reason, but I think that might have been the initial batch. Haven't heard anything since.
I would recommend the 63mm DeWalt battery nailer to anyone. It might be a big lump, but it works fantastically.
I've got a straight clip DeWalt bradder that Keith is referring to, just in, so i'm going to be playing with next week hopefully!
Andy
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Post by mailee on Oct 16, 2007 21:56:43 GMT
Actually Andy it was from your test on the De Walt angle nailer in GW that convinced me to buy one, Glad it did now thanks. ;D
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Post by gazza on Oct 17, 2007 20:56:55 GMT
Senco do cordless 18g, 15g and framing nailer although it is clipped head the same as their air ones.
I have the air operated finish pro 18g, finish pro 41xp 15g and the framepro 701xp.
If their cordless are anything like their air operated they would be better than anything else on the market IMHO.
Cheers,
Gazza.
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Post by Scrit on Oct 17, 2007 21:10:17 GMT
I know. I'm now using one. Nice machine, but a bit big and unwieldy against the deWalt 16 gauge cordless. I'm waiting to get a go on the new 18 gauge cordless Senco do (a) cordless.... ....framing nailer although it is clipped head the same as their air ones. I'm not keen on clipped head because I'm not sure they'll hold up well in certain conditions, e.g. decking, roofs and fences. My understanding is that for many purposes more than 30 states in the USA have now banned the use of clipped-head nails in exterior framing and roofing applications on the grounds of poor fixing - maybe weather/climate oriented. I use a DW51844 full-head stick nailer for the big stuff. Scrit |
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Post by gazza on Oct 17, 2007 22:35:01 GMT
I'm not keen on clipped head because I'm not sure they'll hold up well in certain conditions, e.g. decking, roofs and fences. My understanding is that for many purposes more than 30 states in the USA have now banned the use of clipped-head nails in exterior framing and roofing applications on the grounds of poor fixing - maybe weather/climate oriented. I use a DW51844 full-head stick nailer for the big stuff. Scrit Yes, agreed , i have read that about the clipped head, as you say could have something to do with the climate, the UK is fairly new to nail guns (ie, only really became popular in the last 5 years or so) although they have been around a good while. The yanks are streets ahead of us, There are still lots of first fix chippies over here that prefer to use a London screwdriverI use ring shank for that little bit of extra grip, and have to say they do make a real difference, as the smooth nails are very easily pulled out  Dont buy cheapo nails, Senco nails for the sencos and paslode nails for the paslodes and bostitch nails for the bostitchs Just as a matter of interest, is your dewalt a UK model or an American import Do you really think there is a difference ?? Cheers, Gazza. |
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Post by andy king on Oct 18, 2007 9:29:49 GMT
Actually Andy it was from your test on the De Walt angle nailer in GW that convinced me to buy one, Glad it did now thanks. ;D Thanks Mailee! Nice to know I can get it right sometimes! ;D As for the Senco guns, I've looked at the Airfree 41 (15 gauge, 63mm max fixing, angled clip) and the Airfree 25 (18 gauge bradder 50mm max, straight clip) The 41 is 14.4v the 25 is 12v so not compatible with each unit which is a trick missed I think. The 41 doesn't perform anywhere near as well as the DeWalt, even dialed up to maximum strike, it won't always drive fully home especially on harder stock. The one I had also had a problem with the drive mechanism after a while, I used it for a load of second fix stuff I was doing and it wouldn't fire, going through the wind up sequence, then stopping. Apparently there's a belt of some sort that was prone to failure on the original ones, but I only had the problem after about 6 months of continuous use. I assume this has been sorted now though. The 25 is much better though, I've used one of these extensively in the past, with no problems whatsoever. As mentioned, I'm looking at the new DeWalt straight clip bradder in the next week or so, and if it matches the power and performance of the bigger model, I think they will have cornered the market. If the can harness the same technology into a full 90mm first fixer, then I would say it's 'cheerio Paslode' Andy |
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Post by Scrit on Oct 18, 2007 17:51:57 GMT
Just as a matter of interest, is your deWalt a UK model or an American import Do you really think there is a difference ?? According to the parts list there is none, but at the time I needed one and stumped up the UK price. Ouch! Still first job paid for it. I've heard a couple of times that the Hitachi's seemed to struggle firing upside down for some reason, but I think that might have been the initial batch. Haven't heard anything since. Andy, I can confirm that the current Hitachi is happy to fire inverted. We were usinhg one a few weeks back to put up a load of studding and it worked a treat in inverted mode Scrit |
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