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Post by dom on Oct 29, 2007 16:32:53 GMT
Post here for tools you have used and are not impressed with.
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Post by mrgrimsdale on Oct 29, 2007 18:49:24 GMT
All routers - the noise, the dust, the inconvenience, the limited size of cutters - too small for most joinery functions, the limited range of cutters - mostly apparently designed by people with no interest in woodwork. Handy for a small number of little jobs but otherwise non essential IMHO - and most likely the cause of my hearing loss. I used them a lot in the past and now have constant tinnitus at approx the frequency of a typical router. And the million gadgets, jigs, extras, you need to buy to make them vaguely useable. And the price of the cutters  cheers Jacob |
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Post by paulchapman on Oct 29, 2007 19:12:23 GMT
And the million gadgets, jigs, extras, you need to buy to make them vaguely useable. In my experience, most of the jigs you need can be made from scraps of wood and MDF at virtually no cost. Cheers  Paul |
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Post by paulchapman on Oct 29, 2007 20:11:42 GMT
;D ;D ;D
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Post by dom on Oct 29, 2007 20:20:00 GMT
Yup, couldn't do without them, well I could but It would be a damn slow process.
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Post by sawdust on Oct 29, 2007 20:25:20 GMT
Actually I can be bothered, what a load of b*ll*cks There's no stopping the raw power of a reasoned argument I always say |
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Post by mailee on Oct 29, 2007 20:37:54 GMT
I would be lost without my little army of routers. All my jigs are home made. Most of the jobs I use them for would take an age by hand if at all. Mind you I did hate the B&Q Power Pro special I bought a few years back, now it's a doorstop. ;D
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Post by nickw on Oct 29, 2007 20:46:57 GMT
Most of the above supports, I think, my assertion that these threads should not be sticky.
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Post by engineerone on Oct 29, 2007 22:19:27 GMT
exakt precision saw. f****ing useless in my personal view. bought it to cut the expansion gap in an already laid wood floor. only works one way alright going into left hand corners, no good for the right. the motor is angled and the blade is offset. about as much use in the circumstance as a chocolate tea pot ;D so i bought the fein  paul |
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Post by paulchapman on Oct 30, 2007 8:01:28 GMT
Mind you I did hate the B&Q Power Pro special I bought a few years back, now it's a doorstop. ;D Agreed. I bought the half-inch B&Q Power Pro before I could afford the DeWalt. Frankly, it was so bad that I rated it as dangerous and I stopped using it The trouble with it was that the controls and plunge action were so poor that my attention was diverted away from the actual cutting. It's a pity that these cheapo routers are so bad because most of them will, I suspect, be bought by people who know very little about woodworking and using power tools and are likely to struggle with them  Cheers Paul |
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Post by mrgrimsdale on Oct 30, 2007 8:07:42 GMT
All routers - the noise, the dust, the inconvenience, the limited size of cutters - too small for most joinery functions, the limited range of cutters - mostly apparently designed by people with no interest in woodwork. Handy for a small number of little jobs but otherwise non essential IMHO - and most likely the cause of my hearing loss. I used them a lot in the past and now have constant tinnitus at approx the frequency of a typical router. And the million gadgets, jigs, extras, you need to buy to make them vaguely useable. And the price of the cutters cheers Jacob I should add - most of router functions I've replaced by morticer, spindle moulder and wobble saw which do just about everything a router does but better, faster, quieter etc - and with much bigger cutters if necessary. I still would use a router for odd little jobs, fiddling about with funny shapes in ply or whatever, and sometimes also for popping out the haunch part of a mortice. Used to use a router for letter box holes in doors until I realised that you could do it on the morticer much easier and faster - if you did it before building up the door, not after. cheers Jacob |
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Post by pj on Oct 30, 2007 8:38:03 GMT
Axminster biscuit jointer.
Good enough on 3/4 stuff without the fence, but way to much faffing about trying to use the fence and get it parallel.
Philip.
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Post by colincott on Oct 30, 2007 9:28:44 GMT
Now dont laugh I have a Power devil router that has a cutter in it but as the pin to lock the spindle is worn, it will not come out  Bowing my head in shame  |
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Post by Dave S on Oct 30, 2007 13:30:12 GMT
Now dont laugh Wouldn't dare!!! I have a Power devil router that has a cutter in it but as the pin to lock the spindle is worn, it will not come out I believe some have found that this can be rectified by switching on the router (may be wise to duck first!! ;D) Dave |
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Post by colincott on Oct 30, 2007 15:23:20 GMT
I believe some have found that this can be rectified by switching on the router (may be wise to duck first!! ;D) Dave Dave Dare I say you might have used one before |
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Post by Dave S on Oct 30, 2007 20:09:19 GMT
Dave Dare I say you might have used one before Might have Actually I've only read of others having that happen - didn't Alf test one once and find it a problem? I've had mine for about 7 years and it refuses to die - just goes to show the luck of the draw when you go for this kind of budget tool. Only thing to go wrong with mine is the lower bearing gave up, so I went and replaced the bearing  (A few months later, Steve Maskery did the same with his Elu and got a GW article out of it!) Unfortunately, I've never used what most of you would (I guess) call a 'proper router' and until the Power Devil completely dies I can't really justify the expense  |
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Post by colincott on Oct 30, 2007 21:47:10 GMT
Dave I still have that one and it still works but it would b nice to get that cutter out so I can use a different one in it |
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Post by Alf on Oct 31, 2007 8:49:40 GMT
Yeah, I had a Power Devil (if ever a tool was well-named...). Lousy router but great for (retrospectively) amusing tales of workshop woe - here and here. Cheers, Alf |
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Post by robo on Oct 31, 2007 21:19:17 GMT
This is more of a tool I don't like using - table saws and circular saws.
I am always very relieved to switch them off - I find them very scary!!
I have seen the results of some nasty accidents with them on building sites!!
R.
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Post by mrspanton on Nov 2, 2007 19:51:02 GMT
I was given a clico tapered reamer for to do tapre'd round mortices. I do not rate it for several reason's
1/ It is a thin and flimsy forging, not chunky and solid like a traditional forged bung reamer. It actually flexe's in use. I know how to control a bit in a brace, but the clico one is unpredictable.
2/ The square end (that goes in the brace) is badly shaped, it is virtually impossible to get it fixed in firmly without it slipping
3/ It doesnt cut sweetly (even though I took care to get advice and I fettled it very carefully) it tends to chatter even with no pressure other than the weight of the brace.
My hand made alexander type reamer does the same job (form tapered holes in seat's) with much greater ease and precision at a fraction of the cost.
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Post by thatsnotafestool on Nov 4, 2007 21:34:30 GMT
Bought some of those disgustingly horrible click clamps...the ones with the row of little teeth down one side, guaranteed to fail and crush your fingers in the clamping handle. If I could only have one wish granted, it would be to place the testicles of the designer/manufacturer of this particular piece of excrement, in the selfsame clamping jaws and then to gradually apply pressure. ;D
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(A few months later, Steve Maskery did the same with his Elu and got a GW article out of it!)
