Spindle moulder setting gauge

[mooretoolsplease]

Afternoon all,
I recently lost out on a Kity spindle moulder setting gauge, and wondered if there are any othere availible to purchase?
There is 2 in Scott and Sargent, but these seem very expensive.
Here is a photo of what im looking for:

I know trend do one, but it's a bit micky mouse and isn't big enough for the moulder.

Thanks

Matt

[mrgrimsdale]

What do you do with it? I've been using a spindle for years and never felt the need. I do a lot of setting up with trial bits of scrap so you can see what you are getting. Or rough setting up by eye.
Come to think, if I needed a device like the above I'd probably use a sliding combi square and a bit of lath or summink

cheers
Jacob

[mooretoolsplease]

I'm after one to eliminate the need for trial bits of scrap, or roughly setting by eye.
I would rather get it right first time, and save time in the process
To use it, each side goes either on the bed of the moulder, or on both sides of the fence, and the projection is measured from the gauge.

[dom]

Hi MTP, I use the Trend for small cutters 40mm and it's fine, at that price you can buy two or three.

Dom

[Scrit]

The one by Scott & Sargeant is the Aigner (who, incidentally, make some of the Felder add-ons). There's probably nobody quite like them, although I believe both Panhans and Martin offer some even more high-priced alternatives. What about making your own from plywood with an electronic DTI?

Scrit

[mooretoolsplease]

Thats just what I have been looking at Scrit,
I'm currently thinking along the lines of adapting a vernier caliper, so I can use the thumb wheel to move the bar up and down.
do you own one?

[Scrit]

Hi Matt

Never found the need for one - just cut a test piece and fiddled. The problem is that you need to have DROs on the rise and fall as well as an Aigner-type tool. I've tried the Panhans fences with the DROs, but they don't take into account the effect of applying a false fence. One of the better ideas I've seen is the rotating turret stops fitted to some modern spindles such as the Roblands which allow repeat cuts to be made (providing, of course, you don't change the turret settings.....)

Scrit

[dom]

I had the Aigner Electronic which I couldn't get on with.
Beautifully made but cumbersome and somehow the digital readout was always in the wrong place and it cost an arm and a leg.

Dom

[andy]

Matt,

Don't know how much you want to pay ;D

but how about a vernier height gauge?

you could use it to set the hight and hold it against the fence to set the projection

www.toolmix.com/browse/product.asp?pid=68085&s52cnc=FROOGLE-UK&s52r=FROOGLEUK

[JasonB]

Matt

Was in ly local tool shop this morning who are/were Kity agents, they had what you are after hanging on a wall that looked like it had been there for years.

Price Tag was £50.00 and as they are closing down due to redevelopement have 20% off any item in the power tool department.

Not sure where you are but this is their details

L H Turtle Ltd

6-12 Park Street,
Croydon,
Surrey,
London,
CR0 1YE
Tel [phone]
Fax [phone]

Ask for the power tool department, if they don't know what you are talking about say its hanging up on the wall just outside the office door!!

JasonB

[engineerone]

having never used a spindle moulder i am a bit confused matt,
surely it really is much more accurate to test cut than hope that your measurements are right???

certainly that is what one often does on metalworking for intricate patterns to ensure the two halves mate properly.

even woodrat suggest something similar, ie a story stick

thing about jigs is that you can always be just a "smidgeon" off and you will never know until you have made the piece and tried to offer it up. if you have done a bunch of moulding that seems a real pita, whereas the scrap and massaging approach ensures it ends up correct at all times.

paul

[mooretoolsplease]

Thanks for the info Jason, I will give them a ring in the week.
Paul, I'm after the gauge to set the machine up to do a test cut, at the moment its always guess work, but using a gauge would get me almost there first time, rather than 3 or 4 attempts.

[Lord Nibbo]

I got two gauges, these

Trend


Veritas


These two do everything I want of them surprizingly the trend gauge is more than good enough on my router table.

[Scrit]

Problem is, m'lord, that they're too small for a spindle moulder

[niki]

I don't know it will fit but, because it's home-made, you can make it to fit...

I'm setting the saw blade and router bit height with the modified caliper (5 min work)


Or with this height gage (less accurate)


niki

[jfc]

Gotta agree with Nikki on this one , easy to make with a cheap pair of calipers and some ply .





Just cut the bottom fork off so it doesnt foul the cutter block , two bolts and a dab of glue

[paulchapman]

JasonB said:

they are closing down due to redevelopement

Blimey, Jason, is Turtles closing down They've been there for ever. There'll be hardly any good tool shops left soon

Cheers

Paul

[Lord Nibbo]

scrit said:

Problem is, m'lord, that they're too small for a spindle moulder

I forgot it was for a spindle moulder It's my age now what was the question again? ;D

[andy]

jfc said:

nice profile what did you use as a pattern, the shape of your bandy legs maybe ;D

[Lord Nibbo]

andy said:

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nice profile what did you use as a pattern, the shape of your bandy legs maybe ;D

According to Senior or was it Dom who said he's tight in buying a round in the pub, so with that said I think he used his wallet for a profile of the jig.