Cordless Drill - Driver

[pewe]

Harrogate hotels are fully booked, but I know of one room for the Saturday night at £55 inc breakfast if anyone is interested.

The B&B is the Belmont and the phone number is 01423 528086.

[Scrit]

senior said:

Me too, can I come, where's Harrogate............... woooooh just had a look on the map, sorry lads busy that weekend ;D

You mean to say you don't want to come up and meet us hairy northern savages? Well that's all the more black pudding and Moorhouses Black Cat (mild) for us, then ;D Pity, I'm sure Dan would have liked to meet you in the flesh - me too

senior said:

.....next you will be taking the piss out of me because my hobby is embroidery.

I'm sure you have some very nice doillies in your office, dear

lordnibbo said:

Illusion shattered..... I had you down as a crochet man. Must be the string vests gave me the wrong impression.

Don't you mean tatting?

Scrit

[dom]

Tatting and crochet are quite different.
Tatting uses a shuttle wheras crochet uses a hook.

O.K. need to go and spit and fight n'stuff now. ;D

[Scrit]

Pewe

On a more realistic note I had the opportunity to talk with another dealer today (ordering more tools..... review to follow?), who also happens to run a hire shop. Some of his opinions were not dissimilar to mine, namely that almost everyone wants the biggest, fastest, etc - and that means 18 or even 24/28.8/36 volt seemingly regardless of the weight, size, etc. In his opinion many trades would be better served by 12 or 14.4 volt kit which is smaller and lighter. He postulated that most people using a combi drill would be better off with a drill/driver and an SDS drill as the SDS is far superior for masonry and large diameter wood bits. Finally there was an interesting pearl of wisdom imparted about impact drivers - that most people buying them are going for machines which are too powerful for the job. The average 4mm screw in hardwood will potentially shear if a 150Nm impact driver is used on it (been there, done that, etc..... : so it might be better to use slightly less torque.

On the subject the the Makita MXT/LXT combi boxes it appears that many breakages he's seen are seemingly caused by folk trying to force the gear change between speeds 1 and 2 rather than giving the button a tiny spurt to move the gears (in the same way you often have to do with an SDS drill to change function). But then you all know not to force stuff, don't you.

Oh, and my decision is to stick (in the mud?) with Makita 12 volt NiCd/NiMH for now on the grounds that I just don't need the power of an 18 volt drill and I'm happier with lightweight stuff where I have a one battery type/charger fits all - giving me a drill/driver, impact driver, angle drill/driver, combi drill (for those rare occasions when I need an impact drill) and lamp/radio on a single size of battery. Heavy drilling I do with a 3kg SDS drill (complete with rotation stop). When I go to cordless pinners/nailers in due course that'll be a second lot of batteries/chargers as Makita only do a 14.4 volt Li-Ion 23 gauge pinner at present with no 18/16/15 gauge even on the horizon for now (officially, at least)

Scrit

[dom]

I'll second all of that, up a ladder lightweight is better, well actually even down the ladder. ;D

[colincott]

Scrit

I do agree with what you have said on whole sometime the extra power is very handy as when I was up some scafolding and had to take out some screws from some cravings.

Taking out the plug ( wooden one ), I found that the screws where size 14/16 and 6" ( 150mm ) long and having the 18v MXT made it easier getting them out ;D

By the way if I did not have that, I would have had to use my brace and bit ( not good as it was up about 20" and I would have had to lean out to use it

[pewe]

Scrit.

Thanks for the most interesting and useful details in your post.

I can see the logic of what your mate said.

I have been using the 18v drill mostly for drilling MFC panels and timber so far and not really used it for much else, and so far have not found a problem, but I will see where it goes.

For screw driving I have used the Makita 7.2v small impact driver, and again this has served its purpose well for 4mm screws into timber/MFC.
But then again, it is no where near as powerful as the 18v impact driver, so it appears it is OK, but I will bear in mind your comments regarding 'overpowering' and see how it copes over the next few weeks until Makita want it back.

Thanks again for your input.

[pewe]

Here I just done 100 posts and I've got a full member, better nip off and have a piss...

So what subject can I raise that will incur my having to post 70 replies (69 now) ? I want to be a full member.

But hang on - does that mean I'll have to join the Lord in the loo

[dom]

senior said:

dom said:

I'll second all of that, up a ladder lightweight is better, well actually even down the ladder. ;D

Well I'm gutted and disgusted with you Dom, fatism hurts, just because were fatties we still have feelings. ;D

I'm not fatist at all, if people want to pass wind they can, as long as it's not near me.

[paulchapman]

dom said:

senior said:

Well I'm gutted and disgusted with you Dom, fatism hurts, just because were fatties we still have feelings. ;D

I'm not fatist at all, if people want to pass wind they can, as long as it's not near me.

Blimey, Dom, there'll be a bit of a stink when Senior reads that...... ;D

[exigetastic]

jake said:

I had a joiner round to do the little roof that caps off a bay window which we've rebuilt. I'd put up a tarpaulin over the hole in the wall, with some gert big screws through a piece of pine into the really solid victorian pine lintel. He had to borrow my Hitachi 14.4V impact driver to get the screws out again, because they wouldn't budge at all with his 14V Makita. Came out first time. He looked a teeny bit grumpy about it. Not exactly a scientific test, but interesting.

My father is a sparky and swears by Makita stuff... he came round to help on the tree house build, and was blown away by my cheapo 18v Ryobi Impact driver. So much so he went and bought a Makita version the next day!

Si