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Post by craigmarshall on Oct 23, 2007 7:14:54 GMT
Hi,
I saw a request for Rob Cosman Rough-to-ready on the other forum, and "realised" that I too would really like a copy of this. If anyone has one they could lend to me, or sell me, please let me know. If you are happy to lend, I am happy to pay postage both ways, and/or forward it on to the next borrower..
Cheers, Craig
PS: If you have any of the other Rob Cosman, David Charlesworth or similar DVDs for sale, please let me know.
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Post by paulchapman on Oct 23, 2007 7:56:58 GMT
Hi Craig, Rob's DVD is well-worth getting if you are into preparation work with hand tools. He shows how to plane up a rough sawn board to finished state using a scrub plane, #8 and #4.5. And he shows you a few good dodges. If you're really into hand tool work, I think it's well worth experimenting a bit with planes. I now use three planes with very heavily cambered blades (a #7, a #5.5 and a #3) for preparation work. No need to buy a dedicated scrub plane - you can easily modify old Records and Stanleys to do the same job as a "proper" scrub plane. Just open up the mouth a bit, put a heavy camber on the blade and set the cap iron well back from the edge. I use the original quite thin irons and they work well, even on stuff like oak. A long scrub-type plane, like a #7, is very useful in my view. Cheers Paul
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Post by mrgrimsdale on Oct 23, 2007 8:05:57 GMT
Hi Craig, Rob's DVD is well-worth getting if you are into preparation work with hand tools. He shows how to plane up a rough sawn board to finished state using a scrub plane, #8 and #4.5. And he shows you a few good dodges. snip Paul Or you can just do it the old fashioned way and use a 5 or 5 1/2 jack for almost everything. Spend the money on wood; don't bother with DVDs, expensive planes etc. cheers Jacob
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Post by craigmarshall on Oct 23, 2007 8:48:23 GMT
Paul: Yes - yours is the second (at least) positive review of the rough to ready dvd. I really have no idea whether I'm really into hand tool work. Presently, I'm just into the idea of it. I'm currently only able to do most things the machine-way. I just have a silly romantic notion that it would be a much nicer way to work with wood. I invested in some pretty good old stanley planes and have successfully flattened the bottoms of them. I have numbers 3, 4, 5 and 7. The 3 and 7 are in best (most usable) condition. I'd read else where about converting a 4 or 5 into a scrub plane, and just may do this...
Jacob: Yes - I don't think I'll get a scrub plane if I can possibly make one of the mid-sized planes I've already bought work. Also - don't worry, I won't spend the money on DVDs if I can borrow them from somewhere for free! How do you go straight from scrubbing with a number 5 to flattening or smoothing? Or are you recommending I have two or three number fives set up differently?
Craig
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Post by paulchapman on Oct 23, 2007 9:54:07 GMT
I have numbers 3, 4, 5 and 7. Sounds good I've found that if you want to work efficiently and quickly with hand tools, it pays to have several planes (not necessarily expensive ones) set up for specific tasks. Cheers Paul
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Post by Alf on Oct 23, 2007 11:54:44 GMT
Reckon RC is very good in showing you just how flippin' long it takes to square a board by hand, but his use of a scrub set fine when a jack would be the better option annoys me a good deal, I must admit. I might even argue a scrub should never have been anywhere near such a board, principally 'cos if it's got that much warp in it first thing you'd do would be to consign it to the shorter parts of the project. But of course I pre-suppose that a jack plane is set up with quite a noticeable camber to be a, well "jack plane", and that's by no means the case. And if it was, people might start asking themselves "do I really need an expensive plane for this bit?" at which point Mr C loses money. Not that I blame him (and I want him to stay in business), but y'know, it might be worth mentioning... ;D Where was I? Oh yeah, it's all semantics anyway. Half the people saying "use a scrub" or "convert a #5 into a scrub" really mean "use a jack plane". It's all in the camber, not the number on the toe. And personally I'd confine the 'spensive planes to the one's that effect the finish - smoother, jointer, joinery planes. Even the jointer's debatable. Incidentally, if you haven't spotted it already, you should be aware that I'm turning into a curmudgeonly old anti-plane grumbler - I think it's hanging out over here that's doing it. I used to be a normal tool polisher like wot the tool gods intended... Cheers, Alf
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Post by craigmarshall on Oct 23, 2007 12:52:22 GMT
Sounds good I've found that if you want to work efficiently and quickly with hand tools, it pays to have several planes (not necessarily expensive ones) set up for specific tasks. Yes - that's why I have them! I've read a lot about it, just never put much into practise so far. Also - no room to work at home with hand tools, and when I'm at work, it's machines or nothing. Need to find a place with garden and/or garage. Hmmph, Craig
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Post by craigmarshall on Oct 23, 2007 12:53:30 GMT
Where was I? Oh yeah, it's all semantics anyway. Half the people saying "use a scrub" or "convert a #5 into a scrub" really mean "use a jack plane". It's all in the camber, not the number on the toe. And personally I'd confine the 'spensive planes to the one's that effect the finish - smoother, jointer, joinery planes. Even the jointer's debatable. Well - there's no fear of me buying a scrub then. I've not got enough use out of the others yet. I'll use a jack (when the time comes) and be done with it. Thanks, Craig
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