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Post by scrums on Dec 8, 2007 16:58:19 GMT
Yup, it's that time of year again.....
Thwarted in my attempt to put a wood/shavings type stove in my workshop by my Landlord, he thought it was quite a good idea - but not in his building. Scared off by the running cost of Electric fan heaters ( - anyone want to buy one?) and advised against Propane blowers for various reasons......
I today did a Craft show in pouring rain (....it is Lancashire.....) and 5 degrees.....one diesel indirect heater on each side of the tent and we were all warm as toast.
Running costs for the smaller ones look ok.....capital outlay isn't so good.....about £450. They basically work from outside the building/Marquee and blow the hot air in.
Anyone got any experience - good or bad?
Chris.
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Post by mel on Dec 8, 2007 17:54:47 GMT
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Post by mel on Dec 8, 2007 18:04:55 GMT
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Post by scrums on Dec 8, 2007 18:33:45 GMT
Ahhhh........I see - that was a joke - the first link, I'm like the Michelin man at the moment - the workshop is about + 2 on whatever it is outside.
As for option 2 - that's electric, I've just battled with Powergen for 2 years to actually send me a bill and now they're gonna do it, can't afford any more !!
yours truly,
bluefingers
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Post by mel on Dec 8, 2007 18:46:33 GMT
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Post by mel on Dec 8, 2007 18:53:36 GMT
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D sorry scrums im only pulling your leg  if electric and gas ar'nt options and a wood burning stove is out of the question then theres only one other alternative insulation and lots of it so for a little heat you will be able to trap it in , cutting down the cost of your chosen heat source what size is the workshop incidently ?? has this helped ?? |
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Post by mel on Dec 8, 2007 19:11:05 GMT
hi scrums . welcome to the forum sorry i cant help you at the moment , but someone will be along soon who can ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D private joke  |
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Post by dom on Dec 8, 2007 19:48:04 GMT
Mel, you're talking to yourself again  |
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Post by mel on Dec 8, 2007 20:00:13 GMT
do it all the time dom
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Post by mel on Dec 8, 2007 20:01:57 GMT
do it all the time dom
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by dom on Dec 8, 2007 20:17:28 GMT
Do what ?
;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by mel on Dec 8, 2007 20:25:57 GMT
think i've frieghtened him off dom
was trying to be helpful and funny at the same time
im bored out me brains at the mo
and the forum seems quiet
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Post by dom on Dec 8, 2007 20:29:24 GMT
Just for you Mel  |
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Post by colincott on Dec 8, 2007 20:39:22 GMT
I have my workshop heated by one convecter heater but all of my walls and roof are insulated and it does not take long to warm up, plus I can put it on very low to keep the heat up. By the way my workshop is now 22'x10' but was 18'x10' a few day ago ;D ;D Now I just have to get the jobs done before xmas  |
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Post by Scrit on Dec 8, 2007 21:30:25 GMT
Actually, Scrums, if you are going up to that sort of price (£450) you're into the area where a second-hand ITT Reznor, Combat or Powrmatic type heater becomes feasible so long as you have a mains gas supply. T=Many of these (but not all) draw in combustion air from outside and exhaust outside as well, air inside the workshop is recirculated and heated by a heat exchanger "envelope" in the unit. I mean this sort of thing:  but knowing that you have a small workshop you'd probably need the very smallest size available, circa 50,000 BTU/hr. I wonder as you have such low ceilings whether or not a domestic central heating system with 3 or 4 rads in conjunction with insulation might not be more suitable Scrit |
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Post by mailee on Dec 8, 2007 22:10:03 GMT
What you got there Colin, the TARDIS? ;D
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Post by jfc on Dec 8, 2007 22:33:43 GMT
If it is it's broken cause hes never on time ;D
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Post by engineerone on Dec 8, 2007 22:39:19 GMT
remember he works on norff london time ;D ;D ;D with calypso built in  paul |
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Post by Dave S on Dec 8, 2007 23:16:00 GMT
What you got there Colin, the TARDIS? ;D Perhaps he tidied up! Happened to me before now!! ;D ;D ;D Dave |
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Post by colincott on Dec 9, 2007 13:28:26 GMT
What you got there Colin, the TARDIS? ;D Hi Mailee No Tardis I have just spend the last few days extending my workshop from 18' to 22' and had some fun moving the end which is 10' wide by about 10' to the top.  It is now water tight ;D By the way Jason Who have you bean talking too, my wife I think Paul I will see you later  |
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Post by colincott on Dec 9, 2007 13:29:52 GMT
What you got there Colin, the TARDIS? ;D Perhaps he tidied up! Happened to me before now!! ;D ;D ;D Dave Dave I do seem to have a lot more room now |
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Post by scrums on Dec 9, 2007 15:15:55 GMT
Thanks all......including Mel,
The workshop is about 600 sq feet and 10' high, a small domestic combi + rads would be ideal - but with the rip off prices gas installers charge I'd be talking £1k + for installation.
Insulation is OK: only 1 window and walls are 3 1/2 feet thick..... so another problem flueing the boiler.
I guess overall electric just for the few months I need it isn't too bad.
Chris.
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Post by 9fingers on Dec 9, 2007 20:17:54 GMT
Thanks all......including Mel, The workshop is about 600 sq feet and 10' high, a small domestic combi + rads would be ideal - but with the rip off prices gas installers charge I'd be talking £1k + for installation. Insulation is OK: only 1 window and walls are 3 1/2 feet thick..... so another problem flueing the boiler. I guess overall electric just for the few months I need it isn't too bad. Chris. Chris - thick walls dont necessarily mean good insulation so worth checking their insulation performance. The other mechanism for heat loss is draughts so well worth eliminating those too. My shop is about half the volume of your and about the same height so the heat loss surface area of your walls will be around 1.5 times mine. I use a 750 watt oil filled radiator with a thermostat which keeps the chill off typically 10-14 degrees (10 degrees when it is really cold and the radiator can't keep up, 14 degrees otherwise. I'd estimate 1kw would do similarly for you. Bob |
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