Rods

[jfc]

Jacob , i think we need to give you a custon title . Rather thyan big member how about ......


















"The Rodfather" ;D

[paulchapman]

Don't encourage him, Jason - you'll be making a rod for your own back ;D ;D

[jaco]

;D ;D ;D

[simuk]

Jul 14, 2008 22:07:52 GMT dom said:

Sweet Mother of god, are we still on Rods, Jacob please write the definitive rod book and post it as a sticky ( ooh good pun)

I think this would be a great idea, don't think i have see a book or article anywhere on the net.


Simon

[wizer]

No, how about Jacob posts here all he knows about Rods, then I'LL write the book..... ;D

[simuk]

Hey Wizer,

I was thinking more of a combined effort , not fair to heap it all onto one person, plus it would be cool to see the different techniques used.

What about working through the different steps individually, for example

Rod procedure

Step 1
Pick a piece of timber that has a front straight edge , from which all the setting out is worked from.


Simon

[wizer]

Actually when I start this toybox I have decided to try out the rod system for the first time so I can post loads of dumb questions and people can learn from my mistakes

[Sgian Dubh]

Jul 15, 2008 19:42:28 GMT simuk said:

Jul 14, 2008 22:07:52 GMT dom said:

Sweet Mother of god, are we still on Rods, Jacob please write the definitive rod book and post it as a sticky ( ooh good pun)

I think this would be a great idea, don't think i have see a book or article anywhere on the net.
Simon

Simon, I have written about rods and how to use them, but you won't find them on the internet.

The articles were published in Furniture & Cabinetmaking issues 85 and 86, February and March 2004. Slainte.

[Telos]

Jul 19, 2008 9:40:54 GMT Sgian Dubh said:

Simon, I have written about rods and how to use them, but you won't find them on the internet.
The articles were published in Furniture & Cabinetmaking issues 85 and 86, February and March 2004. Slainte.

As those issues are no longer available to order from GMC, would you consider sharing your articles with the rest of us? I'm sure there are lots of us who would like to read them.

[Sgian Dubh]

Jul 19, 2008 14:58:11 GMT Telos said:

As those issues are no longer available to order from GMC, would you consider sharing your articles with the rest of us? I'm sure there are lots of us who would like to read them.

Well, if it was easy to do I'd gladly post the article here as a response. But it's roughly 4500 words and quite a few images too. I'm not sure I've got the time right now to go through the process of placing the images on a photo-sharing server, linking them into the text and creating an online version of the article. Maybe that's a task for the future when I've finished moving house and getting up to date with other jobs.

There is one other fly in the ointment in that I recently sent my manuscript on the subject to an American publisher in the hope that they'll do another print version of it. Slainte.

[engineerone]

i don't know richard, any excuse ;D ;D

hope your move does not cause you too many problems

all the best

paul

[Sgian Dubh]

Jul 19, 2008 21:58:22 GMT engineerone said:

i don't know richard, any excuse ;D ;D

hope your move does not cause you too many problems

all the best paul

I know, I know. All the excuses for not immediately posting an online version of the article are really quite pathetic aren't they?

The house move? Well, it's almost complete. We bought a house here in Leeds using someone elses money-- I guess they'll want us to pay it back sometime. We've been moving almost by a process of osmosis because we rented a house when we first moved to the city, and Yorkshire was a foreign country to me. When we got the keys to the new house we still had to give two months notice at the rented place. This means every car journey to the new place means a car load always goes with us. I'd say about ten car loads will do it, plus the hire of a 'van and man' for one load of stuff too big for me to manage on my own. Luckily, like all furniture makers I drive an estate car. Slainte.

[Telos]

Jul 19, 2008 21:48:47 GMT Sgian Dubh said:

Jul 19, 2008 14:58:11 GMT Telos said:

As those issues are no longer available to order from GMC, would you consider sharing your articles with the rest of us? I'm sure there are lots of us who would like to read them.

Well, if it was easy to do I'd gladly post the article here as a response. But it's roughly 4500 words and quite a few images too. I'm not sure I've got the time right now to go through the process of placing the images on a photo-sharing server, linking them into the text and creating an online version of the article...

I wasn't thinking along the lines of you putting in as much effort as all that. Scan the actual magazine and convert into PDF would be far simpler. Anyway, it's obviously up to you, thanks for considering it though

[sainty]

I have the original articles in F&C which I would be happy to scan and place somewhere with your permission Richard - don't know how it will sit with F&C though?

Rgds

Stu

[Telos]

Maybe the articles could just be attached to this forum somehow, to be downloaded by whomever looks at this thread? Or just let a file hosting server like www.hyperupload.com/ host the file so that nobody here gets in trouble.

I'm sure F&C wouldn't like to see entire issues available for download but if it is only an article or two.. that's no different than the review articles available to DL from a number of manufacturers and probably (nearly!) falls under "fair use".

[jfc]

so that nobody here gets in trouble.

Like we give a sh*t ;D

[Sgian Dubh]

Jul 20, 2008 9:21:43 GMT Telos said:

I wasn't thinking along the lines of you putting in as much effort as all that. Scan the actual magazine and convert into PDF would be far simpler. Anyway, it's obviously up to you, thanks for considering it though

Sadly telos, I'm pretty sure I don't have a copy of the magazine with my scribblings on that topic. I don't really keep copies of magazine versions of articles-- once I've been paid for it I generally lose interest pretty quickly. I only have my original manuscript and all the images as low resolution JPEGS so I'd really have to do some work. I don't even have the original drawings, but I do still have the negatives and photographs -- and yes, I still use a film camera even now, but I do also use digital cameras, but I still prefer film.

Maybe sainty (I think it was) could follow through with the PDF version of F&C's interpretation. Slainte.

[Telos]

Jul 20, 2008 20:58:59 GMT Sgian Dubh said:

Maybe sainty (I think it was) could follow through with the PDF version of F&C's interpretation. Slainte.

Go Sainty!

[thebloke]

I've got all the issues of F&C so I think I'll have to have a dip into past mags and have a look at Richard's articles, I do recollect them as being very detailed.
I use a rod of sorts when I do stuff but it tends to be a full size frontal elevation and a half elevation on the side. In addition I also do quite a lot of detailed A3 drawings on a 1:1 scale on the drawing board. The full size 'rod' is done on a bit of white emulsioned hardboard about 1200x700mm where one corner is 90deg for my big 'T' square to run against. When the project is finished I just paint over it ready for the next one - Rob

[simuk]

Jul 17, 2008 9:20:00 GMT simuk said:

Hey Wizer,

I was thinking more of a combined effort , not fair to heap it all onto one person, plus it would be cool to see the different techniques used.

What about working through the different steps individually, for example

Rod procedure

Step 1
Pick a piece of timber that has a front straight edge , from which all the setting out is worked from.


Simon

Step 2

Let the idea die

[Telos]

Jul 28, 2008 18:52:03 GMT simuk said:

Step 2

Let the idea die

So, has anyone with a copy of F&C found the time to scan the articles yet?

[sainty]

no!

If I have the time tomorrow, I'll give it a go.

cheers

stu

[jimw]

I still think Jacob ought to write a book; maybe he needs a co-author?

How about TONY from the other side ;D ;D

[jimw]

I've just noticed my details (left).
Evidently I've changed sex ( rummages in trousers) - nope seems Ok down there

[mrgrimsdale]

Aug 11, 2008 11:51:04 GMT jimw said:

I still think Jacob ought to write a book; maybe he needs a co-author?

How about TONY from the other side ;D ;D

Well I'm open to offers
As I recall Tony was a bit dismissive abt rods and relies on a calculator and his little ruler.
With which he also administers sharp smacks on the btm, when he's not marching around with it under his arm.

cheers
Jacob