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Post by promhandicam on Aug 3, 2008 13:06:25 GMT
I'm in the market to replace my table saw and p/t and possibly add a bandsaw and came across this package from D+M tools. It would seem to fit the bill in terms of price and what I want in terms of handling capacity. Buying as a package saves about £200 on the price of the individual items. Does anyone have experience of any of these pieces of kit or Record Power in general? My previous p/t was a Scheppach HMS260 which I was very pleased with and I had been looking at replacing it with the newer HMS2600ci. I was therefore interested to see that the Record as well as being 12 x 8 instead of 10 x 8, also has a rubber roller on the outfeed side. As ever, any help and advise would be much appreciated. Steve |
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Post by davyowen on Aug 3, 2008 17:40:09 GMT
Having no experience with the machines in question, I will say that if you can afford the extra, upgrade to the BS500 because the 350 looks far too flimsy for heavy resaw work which requires high blade tension. I believe it was scrit who told me that if a bandsaw says it will accept a 3/4" blade then the maximum you should use is a 1/2" and personally I think a standard 1/2" blade is a tad small for resaw work.
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Post by jonnyd on Aug 3, 2008 19:45:30 GMT
I have no direct experience with these machines but they look pretty good value for 2K. Most P/T will have a rubber outfeed roller and a serrated steel infeed roller. The Scheppach is different in that it has rubber infeed and outfeed rollers so you can plane off miniscule ammounts without leaving the lines that you get from a steel roller.
jon
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Post by promhandicam on Aug 3, 2008 21:06:23 GMT
Having no experience with the machines in question, I will say that if you can afford the extra, upgrade to the BS500 because the 350 looks far too flimsy for heavy resaw work which requires high blade tension. I believe it was scrit who told me that if a bandsaw says it will accept a 3/4" blade then the maximum you should use is a 1/2" and personally I think a standard 1/2" blade is a tad small for resaw work. In this case perhaps the Scheppach Basato 4 might be a better bet as that will accept a 30mm blade, has a 2hp motor but is nearly £300 cheaper than the BS500. Decisions, decisions  I'm going to give D+M a ring in the morning to see if they actually have any of these things that I can actually look at, as that might help. Thanks again, Steve |
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Post by mel on Aug 3, 2008 21:17:48 GMT
had a rpbs once , was glad to see the back of it .
even delivered it for free ;D
im a big fan of scheppach . ive never heard a scheppach owner complain . enough said
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Post by promhandicam on Aug 6, 2008 21:45:06 GMT
Just a quick update to say that I found a good deal on a new HMS2600ci (£695 inc delivery) and a record CX2600 chip collector with a fine filter cartridge. For the saw, I am more or less decided on a basic 10" saw like the SIP 01332 without the sliding carriage as I don't have a huge amount of space plus I've got and Osbourne EB3 mitre gauge. For the band saw I'm going to keep my eye on ebay to see if I can pick up a used saw that is capable of handling 3/4" or 1" blades.
Thanks again for the advice,
Steve
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Post by jfc on Aug 6, 2008 22:21:51 GMT
Ops , i was meaning to give my bandsaw details and view of it but have been on site for the last few days and forgot Sorry . |
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Post by promhandicam on Aug 7, 2008 6:56:27 GMT
Ops , i was meaning to give my bandsaw details and view of it but have been on site for the last few days and forgot Sorry . So, any chance of knowing what your thoughts on bandsaws are as I am still undecided? Thanks. |
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Post by lynx on Aug 7, 2008 7:30:33 GMT
why not the Axmisnter PLus range, the bigger ones take a 32mm blade at around £799 i think. I had the 3 phase model and it handled 6 cubit metres of 3" sapele that week pretty well.
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Post by davyowen on Aug 7, 2008 7:53:05 GMT
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Post by wizer on Aug 7, 2008 8:09:11 GMT
ooooh and it comes with a LASER  |
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Post by jfc on Aug 8, 2008 13:31:52 GMT
I have the RSBS14 and it suits my Joinery needs for cutting tenons , Brilliant now i have a Dragon blade in it . I have also managed to cut my wenge guitar blanks on it .
Downsides are the fence isnt all that good , i keep having to re square it as it comes lose when in heavy use ( cutting 50 tenons ) Also the thread has stripped on the height adjuster but after about 5 years of heavy use i cant really complain about that and i assume its a cheap enough part . Must get that replaced !
All in all i am very happy with it and have no reason now the blade issue is sorted to want to change it .
Hope that helps ?
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Post by promhandicam on Aug 8, 2008 17:36:57 GMT
Thanks Jason. If I understand correctly the BS350 is the replacement of your BS14. From all I've read, the Dragon blades certainly seem to be highly regarded so whatever I end up getting, I guess I'll also be ordering some blades from Dragon too.
Cheers, Steve
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Post by jfc on Aug 8, 2008 18:07:11 GMT
I was amazed by how much better a dragon blade was compared to a record one . I used to buy a record blade for every job and they used to wander after just a few cuts . I have lost count of how many tenons i have cut with the one dragon blade i bought about six months ago ( I must remember to order a few more to keep in stock )
I also have the record router table with the sliding bed , again it has been used for heavy use and again the fence was rubbish , also the clamps to hold the router on where rubbish but after a few modifications it has served me well for a good few years and again i have lost count of how many cupboard doors i have made on it .
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Post by maltrout512 on Aug 20, 2008 9:13:11 GMT
I bought the record pt300 about 3 weeks ago. Have set it up and I am impressed with the finish, both in planing and thicknessing. Next upgrade is a table saw and I feel that the axminster AW12BSB2 to fit the bill. The size is a bit of a concern when it covers about 2m buy 2.3m square.  But the price is good.  Shall let you know how I get on. |
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But the price is good. 
Shall let you know how I get on.