dunbarhamlin
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Post by dunbarhamlin on Sept 8, 2008 21:01:34 GMT
Hi folks Have seen the job, and have seen shutters (next door - which conveniently has the originals still intact) but have a query about the necessary joinery.
On the edge which joins to the frame, it was clear that the rails were through mortised just like a simple panel door.
What I couldn't tell was what was used on the rebated stiles. Should these be through mortised, and then rebated perhaps, or drawbored, pinned or foxed stub tenons?
TiA Steve
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Post by jfc on Sept 8, 2008 21:03:28 GMT
Yup , through tenoned and then rebated .
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Post by dunbarhamlin on Sept 9, 2008 12:48:16 GMT
Fab, thanks Jason. Better get busy - got stock to prep, mockup to make and fit to confirm my widths and 64 MTs to chop. Woohoo. Happily (for ease at least) to match the existing panelling, these will be using applied, mitred moulding, so don't need to do coped mortices. Cheers Steve
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Post by mrgrimsdale on Sept 9, 2008 13:19:44 GMT
Fab, thanks Jason. Better get busy - got stock to prep, mockup to make and fit to confirm my widths and 64 MTs to chop. Woohoo. Happily (for ease at least) to match the existing panelling, these will be using applied, mitred moulding, so don't need to do coped mortices. Cheers Steve "applied, mitred moulding" is called panel moulding and is not as good as 'stuck' moulding as it tends to come loose and move with the panel. It'd make your 'georgian' panels look more 'late victorian, or repo cheapo' You don't need 'coped' mortices anyway - it's actually easier to do it the trad way with square shoulders on the rails, and mitred/scribed corners at the meeting with stiles. You only then need one spindle or router cutter, not two Stuff like this is best done by exact copying of every detail. Every single departure, panel moulds, mdf panels etc, will help to make it look wrong I'm afraid! And a rod would be much more useful, and easier, than a mock-up ;D - or to put it another way; to make a good mock-up you need a rod first, but once you've done one you don't need a mock-up! Brilliant or what? ;D cheers Jacob
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Post by jfc on Sept 9, 2008 17:29:42 GMT
You could always score a line down the middle of the MDF panel to make it look like real wood that has split . ;D
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Post by lynx on Sept 9, 2008 18:16:22 GMT
hehehehhe
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dunbarhamlin
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Post by dunbarhamlin on Sept 10, 2008 8:12:06 GMT
MDF? Nasty evil stuff. Am using ply - like the scoring idea Thanks for the tip re moulding, Jacob. Agree that it has to look like it was installed at the same time as the existing panels. Have actually already discussed possibly needing to distress it to match. If I have time, will also be helping with some inbuilt DVD storage, which will be veneered and faced MDF. (Sorry for the delayed response - not very connected this week) Cheers Steve
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