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Post by Dave S on Sept 19, 2008 12:42:37 GMT
I've been considering getting some cramp heads. I gather that Paramo were considered the make to get but they are no longer available. I've just noticed that Rutlands have a sale on these and wondered if they might be worth going for. They don't have the elongated holes which force the clamp onto the bar and help them to stay aligned - is that much of a disadvantage? Any thoughts most welcome...  Dave |
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Post by paulchapman on Sept 19, 2008 13:32:40 GMT
I think I'd give them a miss, Dave. On the better ones, like Record and Paramo, the face of the moveable cramp head sits either side of the wooden bar. If you look at the Dakota ones, they don't have that feature, which is likely to be a pain in use. Cheers  Paul |
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Post by Dave S on Sept 19, 2008 17:12:21 GMT
Ahh, that's a point I hadn't picked up on.
Thought it might be too good to be true!
cheers Paul,
Dave
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Post by modernist on Sept 20, 2008 21:45:34 GMT
I think you 've got to be increasingly careful about junk from Rutlands. I recently bought a set of Wolf type single flute countersinks only to find they were multi flyte types, and rubbish quality to boot. Not worth the postage to send them back but certainly not "as described".
cheers
Brian
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Post by wizer on Sept 21, 2008 9:12:26 GMT
I think you 've got to be increasingly careful about junk from Rutlands Agreed. I wouldn't touch their own brand/dakota stuff anymore. |
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Post by petemaddex on Sept 23, 2008 9:55:42 GMT
Hi,
The records don't have slotted holes, I ordered a set and they are well made and look like they will work.
Pete
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Post by mel on Sept 26, 2008 18:16:33 GMT
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Post by mel on Sept 26, 2008 18:18:45 GMT
is it to CLAMP or to CRAMP ??
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Post by engineerone on Sept 26, 2008 18:57:36 GMT
BOTH  ;D paul |
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Post by Dave S on Sept 26, 2008 21:30:23 GMT
Yes, I think I'll look into getting these. I've looked at Ebay before but it's the postage that's the killer. Unfortunately Norfolk is not the best place for toolshops  Dave |
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Post by Dave S on Sept 26, 2008 21:31:14 GMT
is it to CLAMP or to CRAMP ?? Noo!! Don't start that one....!!  ;D |
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Post by paulchapman on Sept 26, 2008 21:57:41 GMT
Yes, I think I'll look into getting these. I've looked at Ebay before but it's the postage that's the killer. Unfortunately Norfolk is not the best place for toolshops Dave The ones in that first link don't look like Irwin Record to me, even though they are described as such, but the ones in the second link are. Cheers Paul |
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Post by thebloke on Oct 20, 2008 20:30:16 GMT
I've just taken all my cramp heads into PFT (Penny Farthing Tools) in Town as I find them too cumbersome to use. I think it's a bit of a false economy to to go down the cramp head route...they certainly were never the first long cramps I went for and were generally used when all the Record steel cramps had been used up. I think the Bessey K's are in the same boat as well...heresy I know, but if you look at them, they're just too unwieldy - Rob, who's just read Robert Ingham' book ;D |
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Post by modernist on Oct 20, 2008 21:34:27 GMT
I've just taken all my cramp heads into PFT (Penny Farthing Tools) in Town as I find them too cumbersome to use. ;D What will you do when you have a big frame to cramp up? Surely they have got their place - I know they are a pain to use. Brian |
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Post by mailee on Oct 20, 2008 22:08:24 GMT
What will you do when you have a big frame to cramp up?
Surely they have got their place - I know they are a pain to use.
Brian
Use the tight ar*e method, a Spanish windlass! ;D
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Post by engineerone on Oct 20, 2008 22:54:30 GMT
oh no not another spanish inquisition ;D paul |
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Post by Dave S on Oct 20, 2008 22:57:07 GMT
Use the tight ar*e method, a Spanish windlass! ;D I've made three beds (2 singles, one double) using a spanish windlass when gluing up the headboards! |
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Post by paulchapman on Oct 21, 2008 10:22:59 GMT
Surely they have got their place I agree. Back in 1970 when I couldn't afford many tools and needed lots of sash cramps, Record #130 cramp heads were a good option. I have about 16 pairs of them and until recently used nothing else. I now have a few all metal Record #131s which are better but I find you can manage with just cramp heads. I find the older Record #130 heads with the shorter screw better than the newer ones. One tip if you do use them is to throw away the securing pin and replace it with a bolt and nut - the pin always falls out at the worst possible moment. I've done the same with the #131s. One advantage of the cramp heads over the all-metal cramps is that they are lighter. This can be important if you are cramping up something that is quite delicate and the weight of the all-metal cramps can pull the piece out of shape. Cheers Paul |
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Post by Dave S on Oct 21, 2008 12:33:26 GMT
I agree. Back in 1970 when I couldn't afford many tools and needed lots of sash cramps, Record #130 cramp heads were a good option. I have about 16 pairs of them and until recently used nothing else. Which is exactly the attraction for me. Not actually made a purchase yet, though.... |
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Post by paulchapman on Oct 21, 2008 12:52:36 GMT
Not actually made a purchase yet, though.... If thebloke has just taken his to Pennyfarthing Tools, it might be worth giving them a ring and asking how much they want for them........ Cheers Paul |
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