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Post by jfc on Sept 24, 2008 8:48:43 GMT
On a multi machine . Is it a real pain in the ar*e ? I've seen one that ticks all the boxes exept its belt change rather than switch over . Is it as easy as changing the belt over for speed on the spindle or more involved ?
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Post by mrgrimsdale on Sept 24, 2008 9:30:06 GMT
On my single motor Maxi 26 belt change was no prob - much faster and easier than changeover on my minimax lab 300 with 3 motors.
Depends on the machine but don't let one motor put you off.
cheers
Jacob
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Post by engineerone on Sept 24, 2008 9:34:01 GMT
don't the modern one motor machines have a lever to move it, and even automatically adjust the tension??? paul  |
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Post by jfc on Sept 24, 2008 9:39:40 GMT
Its an older record power / lurem/maxi 26 . How comes it was faster Jacob  |
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Post by mrgrimsdale on Sept 24, 2008 10:06:33 GMT
Its an older record power / lurem/maxi 26 . How comes it was faster Jacob On the minimax to go from say thicknessing to TS you have to swing down the extractor duct, wind down the thicknesser table, turn down the two planer tables, put fence in situ, turn switch. On the maxi 26 you open the cover, swap belt- swing motor to loosen and self tighten. Much quicker. And speed change for the spindle much quicker on maxi 26. Sold mine for £500 few years ago. It was good value for money and much tougher machine than you'd think. Did loads of work with it at one point sharing with 2 other joiners so it'd be thrashed all day. Planer tables not too accurate but workable round with a lot of setting up. Motor under powered. |
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Post by jfc on Sept 24, 2008 12:59:08 GMT
Hmmmm this one is 1500  |
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Post by engineerone on Sept 24, 2008 14:00:04 GMT
yes but jason, jacob sold his when god was a lad ;D so inflation has had some impact on prices  paul |
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Post by jake on Sept 24, 2008 14:03:58 GMT
The maxi has a bit of a reputation - with all the owners I've heard of apart from Jacob - for being sh*t.
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Post by jfc on Sept 24, 2008 14:38:32 GMT
Is that the old style maxis or the new ones aswell Jake ? The new one being the record C26 .
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Post by jake on Sept 24, 2008 15:12:31 GMT
Unscrambling the old threads over there, it's the lurem-made maxi (as badged by Record). There seems to be another lurem made C26 which had a similarly poor reputation (but three motors, I think). Jacob's deleted comments were the only ones in support, and there were at least five unimpressed ex-owners.
The later C26 is made by minimax, I think, and is supposed to be better, but with the usual record uplift for the badge.
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Post by mrgrimsdale on Sept 24, 2008 16:30:07 GMT
I think Record did, perhaps still do, both. The Minimax C26 and the Lurem/AEG Maxi 26. Completely different unrelated machines. The Minimax is vastly superior quality, if mine is anything to go by i.e. the Minimax Lab300 (deluxe  with extra long table), but with other minor problems of it's own - slow changeover being one. The Maxi 26 was very well tried and tested by me and several others - I'd guess we used it for many more hours than many of the other less satisfied commentators. I still say good value for money. Was I think £1300 ish new when I bought it in 1986. Sold £500 about 10 years later, well thrashed but still going! I know more than I did then. Now I'd buy used e.g. that Luna which came up in another thread looked jolly good. cheers Jacob PS there's a fairly natural tendency for novices to blame the machine or the tools for their poor work. They only stop complaining when they have the finest that money can buy (naming no names ;D). So Maxi 26s get a big thumbs down. |
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Post by cadas on Sept 24, 2008 19:00:56 GMT
I'd look seriously at that Luna, they were made for professionals, the maxis were only semi pro. Plus the luna has 3 motors so no belt changing.
I would ask if the luna being shown has the sliding table. This is brilliant as you can move the cross cut fence on it to make it into a tenon carriage.
My old Luna has been used in the workshop and because of its size and because it splits in two and is easily transported, I've used it on sites when I've has stuff to do for a couple of weeks.
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Post by jfc on Sept 24, 2008 20:00:22 GMT
The Luna looked like you need to remove the planer thicknesser to use the spindle . If thats the case then there is no point in me getting a multi machine as i have seperates as it is . Also the Luna looked alot bigger than the newer minimax C26 /Record C26 .
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Post by jake on Sept 24, 2008 20:43:38 GMT
Eh? Wind down the sawblade (and stick the fence on), it looks like to me?
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Post by jfc on Sept 24, 2008 21:38:26 GMT
On the record C26 its a turn of a dial to wind the blade all the way down , about half a hand turn  I know this as i stood in D and M tools turning it , the blade goes up , the blade goes down , the blade goes up , the blade goes down , the blade goes up , the blade goes down , the blade goes up , the blade goes down , the blade goes up , the blade goes down , the blade goes up , the blade goes down , the blade goes up , the blade goes down , the blade goes up , the blade goes down , the blade goes up , the blade goes down , the blade goes up , the blade goes down , the blade goes up , the blade goes down , the blade goes up , the blade goes down , the blade goes up , the blade goes down , the blade goes up , the blade goes down ;D |
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Post by jake on Sept 24, 2008 21:56:02 GMT
Were you licking the window at the same time?
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Post by cadas on Sept 25, 2008 4:18:24 GMT
No on the luna you just lower the saw blade and install the fence. The fence is also good, micro adjustment on the faces, good extraction and lots of hold downs.
For small stuff I have often left the spindle set up and still been able to cut using the saw
Also fence on the planer is cast and tilts, plus, if you reverse the planer fence, it acts as a long saw fence.
As you can tell, I'm a fan, but these are so well thought out. Simple stuff like splitting the machine, it is just two 13mm bolts and a big solid multi plug and socket.
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Post by cowboybuilder on Oct 5, 2008 13:35:13 GMT
I bought my Lurem/AEG Maxi 26. for £1500 from "Poole Wood Tools"in Nottingham in 1991 and they threw a dust extractor in for free ,the only problem i've had was the capacitor stopped working ,not coverd by the warranty after 17 years ,this multi has been on site and in my workshop and is worked most days and is still running with the original drive belts.
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Post by mrgrimsdale on Oct 5, 2008 17:46:43 GMT
I bought my Lurem/AEG Maxi 26. for £1500 from "Poole Wood Tools"in Nottingham in 1991 and they threw a dust extractor in for free ,the only problem i've had was the capacitor stopped working ,not coverd by the warranty after 17 years ,this multi has been on site and in my workshop and is worked most days and is still running with the original drive belts. Thank god fer that I was beginning to think I was the only person in the universe who rated the Maxi 26, and possibly deranged! I thrashed mine. Needed switch replacing twice until we discovered a wiring mistake. Needed new bearings on the thicknesser feed but that was because I had oiled them which is unnecessary and causes them to turn in the housing and self destruct (crap design detail). Needed new bearing at top end of spindle shaft. cheers Jacob |
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Post by jfc on Oct 5, 2008 18:27:10 GMT
;D No , i lick the windows before i go into the shop . I missed the one i was watching on ebay because i spent the day re arranging the workshop to make sure i had the space . I ended up missing the bidding  It went for £950 but the buy it now price was £900 Ahhh well , after all thats been said i think i am better off trying to save my pennies and go for the Minimax badged by Record . |
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with extra long table), but with other minor problems of it's own - slow changeover being one. 
It went for £950 but the buy it now price was £900