|
|
Post by Dave S on Jan 18, 2008 13:48:24 GMT
On US forum I've just seen mention of a 'Dust Deputy' by Oneida. A quick google for UK sites turned up this link. (note that as I write, the Oneida UK site is down for a re-build  |) I have a couple of bookmarked sites about making a cyclone like this, but in the absence of round tuits I might consider a purchase. Any thoughts? Dave |
|
|
|
Post by 9fingers on Jan 18, 2008 14:32:19 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by mailee on Jan 18, 2008 19:24:36 GMT
Correct me if I am wrong but I am sure Andy King did an article on this in GW. Or maybe he just touched on it. That name 'Dust Deputy' by Oneida certainly rang some bells.  |
|
|
|
Post by Dave S on Jan 18, 2008 21:00:51 GMT
Mailee, He may well have done - I haven't seen a copy for GW for ages now. It looks like there's a review in the Woodworker this month, though. Bob, That's a very kind offer. However it would be rather large for me. I have a Perform BB100 which is similar to this and so I was thinking more along the lines of this mini cyclone which is very similar to the Dust Deputy. I have read most of the information about Barry's cyclone. I think most who build their own derive much information from the Bill Pentz site, as did the guy who built the mini cyclone above. BY the way, your link goes to a picture of your cyclone rather than the movies. I managed to find them, though, and it certainly looks a great setup you have there.  If I do decide to make one then I'd certainly be interested in some construction tips. Will just have to see how the time goes - there's just never enough!  cheers Dave |
|
|
|
Post by engineerone on Jan 18, 2008 21:44:56 GMT
actually it is important to remember that barry's version was in fact not directly base on pentz, both barry and i found that a great deal of pentz science is to say the least a little dubious. paul  |
|
|
|
Post by 9fingers on Jan 18, 2008 22:25:34 GMT
Bob, BY the way, your link goes to a picture of your cyclone rather than the movies. I managed to find them, though, and it certainly looks a great setup you have there. If I do decide to make one then I'd certainly be interested in some construction tips. Will just have to see how the time goes - there's just never enough! cheers Dave Apologies for the bum link Dave. I did it in a hurry. Sounds like you found a few of my pics anyway. I've edited my original post with the correct link Bob |
|
|
|
Post by Dave S on Jan 18, 2008 23:34:03 GMT
actually it is important to remember that barry's version was in fact not directly base on pentz, both barry and i found that a great deal of pentz science is to say the least a little dubious. paul Oh - I somehow missed that. Mind you, it's quite a while since I read it all, and even longer ago that I looked at pentz's stuff. If I do visit it (the pentz stuff) again I'll do so with a more critical eye... Dave |
|
jmk89
New Member
Posts: 37
|
Post by jmk89 on Jan 19, 2008 18:23:21 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by wizer on Jan 19, 2008 19:40:57 GMT
I have visited Pentz' site a few times and been blinded by science. I'd love to see a step by step guide to a mini shop cyclone. Seriously considering building one atm
|
|
jmk89
New Member
Posts: 37
|
Post by jmk89 on Jan 19, 2008 20:42:49 GMT
I have visited Pentz' site a few times and been blinded by science. I'd love to see a step by step guide to a mini shop cyclone. Seriously considering building one atm Have a look at the link that I put up in my earlier post - it is so easy and step-by-step that not even I could foul it up! |
|
|
|
Post by engineerone on Jan 19, 2008 22:56:59 GMT
barry's first cyclone, was one of the triton buckets, and worked very well. the reason that pentz work is not quite right for here is he makes certain presumptions about heights and other things which are not feasible over here. few of us have high barn or other buildings in which to work, so many of the ratios pentz uses are not viable. the prinicipal that pentz proposes ie a cyclone captures more of the fine stuff is correct, it is just that what is available in the uk does not always match what he proposes. in addition from previous experience, when someone questions him, he gets very angry and defensive, rather than being open to criticism. paul |
|
|
|
Post by thatsnotafestool on Jan 30, 2008 13:09:20 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by Dave S on Jan 30, 2008 20:46:57 GMT
If your shop vac is similar to mine (as in an Earlex) then I don't think it has enough volume of suck to drive the mini-cyclone in your pictures. That's interesting because I've had the cheap Earlex for a few years and on the basis of this I had at one time considered making a small cyclone for it. However, I recently picked up a Perform BB100 on Ebay which is similar to this model. It came with the Axminster plumbing kit. It certainly has considerably more oomph than the Earlex, even though their nominal power ratings are similar. My feeling is that it would be powerful enough to drive a small cyclone. I'm going to have to try to get to a WH Smiths and get a copy of the Woodworker to read the review. Dave |
|
|
|
Post by engineerone on Jan 30, 2008 21:36:43 GMT
seem to remember that the feeling was a min of 1800 -2000watts is required to give you a decent enough flowthrough for much of what a small shop would have. paul |
|
|)
