insulation

[engineerone]

so any bright ideas for those of us in rented accomodation

for instance best kind of secondary glazing, wood or plastic, and glass or plastic?

what about front and interior door stripping???
what about under doors for draught exclusion?

plus of course cheap as chips ;D

paul

[woodyew]

Easy peasy...


Long Johns and an extra jumper.


Can't get much cheaper than that. ;D

[engineerone]

what on every window ;D

paul

[woodyew]

Well of course not, that would just be plain silly.

Just move them to whichever window or door is nearest you.

[engineerone]

yes, but i am not the highly paid executive of a utililty supply company ;D

wot no proper suggestions

so none of you have to look at these secondary methods

paul

[woodyew]

Well, being sensible for a minute.
I wouldn't go overboard insulating a rented house. Assuming the loft has plenty (200mm or more) insulation I would probably just make up some basic frames and use dual channel and acrylic sheet. I'd also probably fix some door seals on front/back door.

[engineerone]

and there's the rub, it is a flat, but i accept the principle

so the plastic channel stuff is ok and does not look to bad.

the front door is a pita to insulate because it was adapted to be
a disabled one, and i have not found a material which does not stop the entry mechanism working properly on the front of the jam it won't compress too much, and on the side it is too wide.

mind you have not found it easy to get brush these days in a shed. do screwfix do it does anyone know??

then it is the internal doors, maybe i need to make a couple of screens ;D

paul

[tusses]

for the windows - that cling film stick on stuff that shrinks when you put a hair drier on it. For the door - a thick curtain (floor to cieling, and draught sausage thingy

[agbagb]

If your get any benefits or tax credits, and your landlord agrees, you should be able to get insulation, draught proofing, possibly a new boiler for free. Do a search on insulation grants, it'll throw loads up.

[engineerone]

thanks been there done that, one of the joys of being of pensionable age ;D however my council has all the value of a chocolate teapot in relation to this.

what i have found is that there is no joined up process which is properly linked.

paul

[9fingers]

Draughts are one of the greatest ways to lose heat. Stop those first.
There is very little to choose between different method of secondary glazing. A wooden frame with polythene sheet stapled on is probably the cheapest.
Bob

[ivan]

I thought pensioners were to get the main benefit from the energy windfall ££ - free insulation? If you haven't asked recently, ask again now; also check citizen's advice bureau etc as sometimes council is deliberately offputting!

If you're meat in a sandwich with flat above and below, you could turn off your heating and suck on theirs! Main loss is bad draughts, cheapest to fix, then via roof, bad news if you're in the penthouse...next is walls, and then floor and windows. Heavy, lined curtains work surprisingly well, as it's coldest after dark, but are expensive - but you can take them with you.
Even at today's energy prices double glazing will take 8 - 10 yrs to pay for itself.

[engineerone]

interesting thoughts ivan, and you should be right, but .

the walls of my ground floor flat are double thickness brick, so that's no use. so it is down to windows, and the front door.

i'll go back to the plastic window covers, and already have a thick curtain round the front door, but need to insulate around the door frame.

paul

[jfc]

I get my brushes from mighton but they run in a plastic channel that you need to rebate into the timber . Maybe you could run some of this off and plant it onto the existing stops At least that way the door shuts and you seal the draught but wont look to pretty .

[engineerone]

you've seen my work jason ;D ;D who needs pretty if it cuts the fuel bill

will seek them out

paul

[jfc]

Ill send you a sample rebated in if you want to PM me your address .

[engineerone]

ta, will pm

paul

[jfc]

Can you send the PM again but not put

Paul at the end . It scared me ;D

[engineerone]

you mean you prefer this

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[9fingers]

Paul,

I just got a mail shot from a company I've bought bits and pieces from in the past.

Might just be of interest to you? www.diyplas.co.uk/

They seem Ok to deal with in my experience.
HTH

Bob

[engineerone]

thanks mate, quick look says they might be of value.

will report when i know more

paul