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Post by sainty on Nov 20, 2008 15:20:44 GMT
Anyone got any recommendations for a general purpose tenon saw. I don't want anything too fancy. Tried the ebay route before but too many have come with a slight bend in them, alright for practising sharpening but after that the lose there usefulness.
rds
Stu
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dunbarhamlin
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Post by dunbarhamlin on Nov 20, 2008 16:36:13 GMT
Hey Stu
Nuthin Fancy is going to mean British (which I think means Garlick these days) unless someone chips in with a user that's up for grabs.
Will depend on range of cuts, of course.
(I've just got a monster saw from the colonies - but nuthin' fancy it ain't)
Cheers
Steve
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Post by rdbfoo on Nov 20, 2008 19:28:48 GMT
I've straightened an ebay tenon saw with a ball pein hammer.
Bob Smalser has written articles about straightening saws a couple of times.
It worked very well for me.
As for new saws I have a Footprint tenon saw. The handle is too chunky for my tastes, apart from that it seems fine.
Robert
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Post by andy king on Nov 20, 2008 20:10:33 GMT
Anyone got any recommendations for a general purpose tenon saw. I don't want anything too fancy. Tried the ebay route before but too many have come with a slight bend in them, alright for practising sharpening but after that the lose there usefulness. rds Stu Stu, if the blade has a slight bend, not the back, you can simply turn the saw upside down, and holding the handle, tap the end on the bench, or the vice and the blade will seat itself in further and in most cases, stiffen it enough to straighten it. That's where the latest fashion of fancy shiny machine slit back saws fail as the blades are glued into the slit, so should there ever become any need to alter, it simply isn't there. The traditional old fashioned folded brass back may not look so nice to the collectors, but it allows you to do general maintenance on one if needed. I've just refurbised an old Tyzack that belonged to my grandfather who used it for cutting through bones (he was a meat, not a wood butcher!) The blood and water from cleaning it had rotted the blade in the handle, so I took it apart, hit the back off, shortened it to take the rotted metal away and put it all back together by tapping the back on the bench to re-seat it as described, and i now have a beautiful saw with a perfectly straight blade. andy |
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Post by sainty on Nov 20, 2008 20:56:25 GMT
Rob, thanks I'll have a scout around see if I can find some articles.
Andy, I'll have to check in the morning to see what is causing the problem, blade or back. I have tentatively tried to "restore" straightness to one of the saws I have. I have this vision of a saw bent double sticking out of the wall. Your method seems a bit more civilised than what I had in mind.
rgds
Stu
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Post by jfc on Nov 20, 2008 21:37:32 GMT
Look for a tyzack on ebay . Colin C sorted me out with one he got from there and it's a cracker .
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Post by colincott on Nov 21, 2008 9:30:29 GMT
sainty Can you post some pics of the saws you have as they might not be as bad as you think. The saw Jason is talking about was not straight when I got it and it is not that hard to do as long as the saw plate has not been stretched. I have done most of my saws with a hammer ( not as bad as it sounds )  |
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Post by woodchucker on Dec 5, 2008 9:27:27 GMT
If you have a saw that has a handle too big for your hand, then there's three options I suppose. Give it a draft chit, take it off and get a rasp and sander to it, or make a better handle.  If I was doing replacement, I'd make the handle from three laminates of a nice hardwood, glued together like plywood. I have some walnut actually, so now I sharpened my Spear and Jackson brassbacks, I suppose I'd best take my own advice and get on with it! If Walnut's good enough for a shotgun, it's good enough for a tenon saw! Oh yes... I nearly forgot. It isn't easy to flatten a buckled blade, but that guy with the website mentioned, does a good job explaining it and with patience it works out usually. Jack  ;D |
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Post by woodchucker on Dec 5, 2008 9:35:30 GMT
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Post by colincott on Dec 5, 2008 9:41:33 GMT
Hi woodchucker
That link you have just posted is for a hand saw not a Tenon saw which is much easier to straighten as you use the back to help you do it.
Sainty
If you still have the saws you got from ebay and want to know how to straighten them, I will try to post a quick video of me doing it.
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Post by sainty on Dec 5, 2008 10:13:05 GMT
Thanks Colin, I just haven't got round to bringing a proper camera with me to take the photos. I will see if I can use my phone to get a good enough photo.
rgds
Stu
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