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Post by sainty on Nov 25, 2008 20:46:37 GMT
I've been asked to look at a job to make some colony(?) doors. Apparently they are like shutters that go on the outside of a porch. Client says that they are quite popular in Scotland.
Anyone heard of these or have any info regarding them?
rgds
Stu
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Post by scraper on Nov 25, 2008 21:02:29 GMT
Oi, we're a nation (again) not a colony! ;D
I wonder if they mean storm doors?
David.
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Post by modernist on Nov 25, 2008 21:16:32 GMT
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Post by mrgrimsdale on Nov 25, 2008 21:22:58 GMT
"Colony" style door is just one of the modern patterns for cheapo doors from Jewson's (probably), along with "Kentucky" "Carolina" etc. Seems to mean 6 panelled.
Vague resemblance, from a distance, to a traditional door.
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Post by scraper on Nov 25, 2008 21:33:41 GMT
And Googling Storm Doors is nearly as bad as the other thread about artists and song titles - it brings up Riders on the STORM by the DOORS!!
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Post by jfc on Nov 25, 2008 21:40:05 GMT
I would say the lovre style shutters they have abroad . Mainly to keep the sun out but also the weather .
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Post by engineerone on Nov 25, 2008 21:45:22 GMT
check out some american door makers because in principal they would be the kind of thing in north eastern america. paul  |
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Post by scraper on Nov 25, 2008 22:10:51 GMT
Mainly to keep the sun out . Definately not Scotland then! The houses on either side of us have storm doors, but it's too dark for pictures! ;D |
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Post by sainty on Nov 25, 2008 22:42:43 GMT
Thanks for that, I will have a look tomorrow and report back on what was meant.
rgds
Stu
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Post by mrgrimsdale on Nov 26, 2008 12:31:14 GMT
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Post by scraper on Nov 26, 2008 12:37:04 GMT
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Post by engineerone on Nov 26, 2008 12:37:32 GMT
you sure they are not meaning storm doors like they have in many parts of the states?? maybe you could get a photo for us to look at? paul |
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Post by mrgrimsdale on Nov 26, 2008 15:09:23 GMT
Some very fine joinery there! 6 panels, which explains why someone thought they were 'colonial' - they aren't.  Not entirely Scottish either. You see similar on medium to big Edwardian houses anywhere, but perhaps they are more common in Scotland. Or are Edwardian houses in the rest of Britain influenced by Scottish arts n crafts, Macintosh etc? |
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Post by jasonb on Nov 26, 2008 17:00:43 GMT
I think they have the second set of doors up there to stop the drunks & dossers from P***ing in your porch  Possibly should be called colostomy doors Jason |
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Post by sainty on Nov 26, 2008 18:13:34 GMT
Bingo! That's the fellas. I went and had a look today, very similar to the ones in the picture except that the front door has no sidelights which makes it all a bit tight for space but still possible. Thanks for the help. Turns out that colony/colonies housing was a type of housing in Edinburgh mid C19 - www.edinburgharchitecture.co.uk/edinburgh_colonies.htm which is, I guess, where the confusion comes from. Rgds Stu |
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Post by scraper on Nov 26, 2008 18:21:31 GMT
Glad to be of help! Funnily enough I have a friend and ex-workmate who owns one of those small houses in the Stockbridge Colonies; very small houses, worth an awful lot of money!! But then it's Edinburgh! David. |
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Post by scraper on Nov 26, 2008 18:24:19 GMT
I think they have the second set of doors up there to stop the drunks & dossers from P***ing in your porch Excellent, and just about true! I've known drunks get trapped inside!! ;D |
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Post by sainty on Nov 26, 2008 22:01:05 GMT
Ok, next question. There is no sill, the doors are 2.2m high (i.e. quite tall for little people) - how do you lock them?
rgds
Stu
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Post by mrgrimsdale on Nov 26, 2008 22:12:54 GMT
Ok, next question. There is no sill, the doors are 2.2m high (i.e. quite tall for little people) - how do you lock them? rgds Stu I'd guess one held with tower bolts into the floor and head (left on your picture) the other closing like a normal door with knob, lock etc, into rebate on the first one, until both opened and held back |
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Post by sainty on Nov 26, 2008 22:21:10 GMT
Thanks Grim, but what I didnt tell you is that the doors that I am looking at are only going to be about 400mm wide each, so they will both have to open for access. If they had been wider its less complicated as you said.
rds
Stu
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Post by jfc on Nov 26, 2008 22:36:47 GMT
Like Mr G said . Tower bolts , very easy to use as you just pull them to unlock the slave door .
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Post by mrgrimsdale on Nov 26, 2008 22:48:29 GMT
Thanks Grim, but what I didnt tell you is that the doors that I am looking at are only going to be about 400mm wide each, so they will both have to open for access. If they had been wider its less complicated as you said. rds Stu I'd still do it the same, unless you can get some fancy fittings so they both open together linked, or summat frinstance |
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Post by dom on Nov 27, 2008 8:56:13 GMT
Are they not normally left open and only closed at night, or during storms ?
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Post by scraper on Nov 27, 2008 9:08:36 GMT
Are they not normally left open and only closed at night, or during storms ? Indeed they are. Most people look on them as added security. Also, it is very common to only have one open, assuming it is wide enough for good accessibility. |
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