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Post by jfc on Nov 29, 2008 19:08:40 GMT
Had a call from a builder today asking for some of the MDF cupboard doors i knock out for £40 each . Every time he calls he asks for a differant size stiles so i pulled him on it today and told him the stiles should be 75mm not 80mm or 95mm as he keeps asking for . He disagreed ( all in the name of banter you understand ) He seems to think they should match second fix internal joinery doors but i say they are not and should be 75mm because they are smaller than second fix internal joinery . What do you lot think ?
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Post by Dan Tovey on Nov 29, 2008 20:27:46 GMT
I think that at £40 a door you're too cheap!
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Post by jonnyd on Nov 29, 2008 20:37:32 GMT
I could probably make 20 doors a day so £800 a day sounds good to me. I would generally have the cupboard doors with a smaller stile than interior doors so 75mm sounds about right but it depends on the style of door to a certain degree. Most of the kitchens i make have 70mm stiles but have done up to 100mm
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Post by sainty on Nov 29, 2008 21:16:11 GMT
I would usually go for about 70mm for a cupboard door. Does depend a bit on the size of the door though.
100mm sounds a bit on the big size, but if you are talking about a wardrobe door maybe not?
rgds
Stu
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Post by engineerone on Nov 29, 2008 21:39:46 GMT
gawd i'm an amateur, and i do not think they should be the same size as internals they will look wrong. paul
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Post by engineerone on Nov 30, 2008 0:23:56 GMT
thinking more about this jason, the fact is normally that cupboard doors are normally narrower than internal doors so using the same width stiles will make them look out of scale. paul
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Post by jake on Nov 30, 2008 0:37:34 GMT
^^ Quite
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Post by jasonb on Nov 30, 2008 10:06:55 GMT
I suppose it depends on the size of the cupboard I would use 65-75mm on a typical 600x720 kitchen carcase but if they are for a built in cupboard that could be twice that height then maybe 100mm. Again it would depend on the profile of the moulding a 75mm shaker style door will look heavier than a 75mm rail/style with a 10mm profile cut into it. Having said that I've got some painted stuff in the oak kitchen I'm doing at the moment with 100mm styles & rails and 170mm bottom & center rails on the 7ft larder doors. £40 is cheap for a one off door allowing for the time to set up machines, but is better when you can run a batch. Jason
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Post by jfc on Nov 30, 2008 10:56:18 GMT
No one has ever asked for one door . Its normally for carpenters who build a wardrobe carcass and then call the door sizes through to me . They look like proper doors rather than a plant on moulding and are alot lighter . I keep a load of stile and rail section in stock so when i get a job i just have to join it together . Nice little earner .
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Post by dom on Nov 30, 2008 11:51:21 GMT
Who cares what size he wants them, charge him, and as long as he pays..................
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Post by nickw on Nov 30, 2008 22:29:53 GMT
Jason,
How do you make MDF doors that are "a lot lighter". Or are we talking about colour here?
I'm confused dot com.
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Post by jfc on Nov 30, 2008 22:41:12 GMT
Nick they are a lot lighter than a solid 3/4" mdf door with beading pinned on . Mine are 3/4" rails and stiles with a 6mm panel .
Can you tell i did my apprentership with the old boys . 3/4 " and 6mm ;D
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Post by nickw on Dec 1, 2008 8:56:47 GMT
Aaaah, I see now. It's wonderful that after all these years of metrication we still use mixed units.
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