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Post by chippy on Dec 5, 2008 20:26:23 GMT
I watched a program last night called the "Fun Police" about health and safety officials. One of them visited a woodworking shop and said that they're oak cutter was illegal? Dont know if anyone else saw that, but did I hear it wrong? or was their table some old and nasty design? A re-run of the program is here www.channel4.com/video/brandless-catchup.jsp?vodBrand=the-fun-police but you have to scroll to about 8 minutes in, in about the third part. So fast forward a couple of times over the ads. |
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stevep
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Post by stevep on Dec 5, 2008 20:49:29 GMT
The viewer doesn't work for me, but I think I saw the bit you mentioned. He was talking about a spindle fitted with a block which didn't have limiters - he also mentioned a router that was illegal, but I don't think the cameraman actually showed it, so whether it was an old overhead router or not I don't know. I thought he was one of the more sensible inspectors on the program - there was a 'consultant' who was a real old woman. He invited the film crew to his house - hilarious. Started by telling them to be careful of the acorns on his drive as they were a tripping hazard. Followed by a demo of mopping up water spilt on the kitchen floor, how to put a pan on the hob. He earns £400 a day doing that.
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Post by jonnyd on Dec 5, 2008 21:06:18 GMT
The cutter block was an old non limiter designed whitehill type block which is illegal to use in a commercial shop.
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Post by chippy on Dec 5, 2008 21:53:28 GMT
Ah I see. I've never seen or used one.
What is it about that machine that is so dangerous? When you say non-limiter, what is the limiter actually limiting?
Yes, that particular inspector was the type of guy I'd be happy to work with, seemed very reasonable and sensible.
The other guy had been in the job a bit too long. I certainly take H&S seriously, but that guy lived it day and night.
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Post by tusses on Dec 5, 2008 22:03:56 GMT
the limiter , limits the amount of material removed per cutter pass.
or instead of the cutter grabbing hold of your hand and dragging it into the machine, it just mangles your flesh a bit ;D
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Post by jonnyd on Dec 5, 2008 22:07:59 GMT
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Post by chippy on Dec 5, 2008 22:17:31 GMT
Sheesh!, I see the problem there. With a hazard like that and with so many recorded injuries, the guy was quite right to tell them to stop using it. HSE = Good guys IMHO.
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Post by tusses on Dec 5, 2008 22:21:05 GMT
but ... If I do a job - I like to find out for myself the best way to do it ! that includes the safest. so why dont the operators know what is safe and not  |
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Roger
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Post by Roger on Dec 5, 2008 22:31:47 GMT
You hear a lot about the Health and Safety guys these day and I bet a lot of programmes and Newspapers get the money from them - but the only time I've come across any of them was at a Business seminar when I was talking to a couple of them after a few drinks! The message was basically; we're not interested in the 1, 2 or 3 man shop. If it's a decent sized business, then get a good training manual together for the machinery, have them understand, read it and sign it and you're Ok. That's with a shop with quite a few 'State side' machines and all sorts of gizzmos  An awful lot of view time is spent on the urban myths of Health and Safety and a lot of Councils and 'pen pushers' go overboard . . . . but that's their legal hangers on,running scared from potential lawsuits and insurance claims |
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