divan couches

[engineerone]

always the optomist, i am interested in looking at designs for
beds that fold out from a sofa (sofa beds :

but rather than dfs type and interested in a wooden side frame version, and with the frame extending in front of the bed, so it seems to need two extra frames.

so what kind of mattresses also?

thinking about a 2 seater with a 3ft 6 wide mattress that is of course 1980 long.

paul

[Head clansman]

Hi paul

have you tried the old second hand furniture shops , might pick up an old one there, then strip it go from there . hc

[mrgrimsdale]

Jan 6, 2009 7:48:49 GMT Head clansman said:

Hi paul

have you tried the old second hand furniture shops , might pick up an old one there, then strip it go from there . hc

Or spot one at a friend's house and crawl around with your tape measure.
Much neglected 'design process' economical shortcut: get your hands on a good example and copy it.
Someone wanted me to work up a design and a price for a 'steamer' type deckchair and showed me the catalogue examples he was thinking of. I told him to go off and buy one from the catalogue and then I could have a proper look at it. He didn't come back but it would have been a lot cheaper than having me work out design, make prototypes etc etc but I guess he thought I'd do that for nothing ;D

[engineerone]

he obviously didn't know you ;D

all these are good suggestions, and i have friends with one,
but normally the problem is the mattress thickness, and if it is folded for too long, then i guess it will get dents in those places
which would them make it uncomfortable.

what i am trying to get my head round is that most sofa's are only about 2 feet in the cushion, yet the double bed should be
6ft 6 long, so where does this come from???

still thought i would ask


paul

[Head clansman]

paul

maybe triple fold

[engineerone]

i agree mate, but you still get the same basic problem which is of course the folds down the middle of the mattress

i could of course make the divan 7 feet long, and do it sideways, but most commercial ones are not so i wonder.
paul

[Head clansman]

paul

i dont see the folds down the centre of the mattress surely the first 600mm ish of the materess width is set in between the arms upto the back rest of the bed settee then it fold from the front edge of the first fold out another two lots of 600mm ish giving 1.2 ish or there about giving the folds across the matteress and a length of about 1.8 ish - 2m pepending on size of folds in matteress , like a backward z straightening out to a flat matteress . hc

[engineerone]

hc, i see what you mean, and maybe i do need to look again,
the overall problem is of course the height of the seat, because this impacts on the depth of the mattress.

paul

[Head clansman]

paul

From my memory when we had to sleep on one when we were kids the mattresses were only about 3 -4 inches thick and very plyable to be able to folded i think all the bedding was folded with it as well , in those days sheets plankets and eiderdowns . I suppose if you
think of a sunlounger that folds up it would help with your design seeing your an engineer . hope this may help . hc Why not post some designs see if we can all help a wee bit .

[Head clansman]

paul

just a thought, might be a help if space is the problem I dont the proper name for these beds They lift from the foot of the bed and hing flat against the wall usually into a recess of some sort . hc

[engineerone]

thanks again clan, but i am not putting any peeing designs on here, i get the p taken out of me enough ;D

i agree about the wall bed, but this is actually for the lounge,
so i will chase around and look more carefully. i agree about the lounger type thing.

paul

[Head clansman]

paul
hope it help anyway . hc

[mrgrimsdale]

Jan 7, 2009 11:09:14 GMT engineerone said:

.. peeing designs..

In the snow?

[engineerone]

i think probably in the wind

paul

[dunbarhamlin]

Ones I've seen had three separate mattress sections, joined/hinged together like an Austrian twin so they fold up like box shutters.

[robo]

Jacob - if your customer ever comes back? - Norm has a plan for a steamer lounger. The brass bits are available from Rocklers - but a bit expensive now!



Rod