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Post by dexteria on Feb 25, 2008 20:34:10 GMT
Hi all,
I've fitted a few Velux windows into old houses in the past and rather than setting them in plum I've fitted them out of plum but looking right as the rest of the surroundings were out also.
This week I'm fitting 4 to a house built in the 1700s. The rafters, floor and ceiling are waaaayyy out as there has been considerable movement of the building in the past. I've fitted two so far and made them "look right" from inside. Trouble is that from the oustide they look terrible. Its a listed building and the Velux are the conservation type. Its a three storey building so mostly won't be seen from the narrow street below. I'm wondering what the planning/bco officers will make of it. What would you do?
Cheers
Mark
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Post by dom on Feb 25, 2008 20:37:52 GMT
If they can't be seen from the outside, then I'd fit them to look right on the inside.
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Post by jfc on Feb 25, 2008 21:16:50 GMT
Agree , the BCO wont care if they are out of level they just want them fitted correctly and if all the flashings are in place and the glass is right then thats all they want to know . I would however tell the customer about the problem and let them see both ways they can be fitted , its only moving a few screws to drop or raise it so no real hassle . Sometimes if things are not to bad i go half level and half looks right but if i know the customer is going to be a pain i will put it in spot on level so i dont get called back
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Post by jake on Feb 25, 2008 21:18:22 GMT
Given the listed building status, I'd get the conservation officer out to have a look (or give the OK on the phone if they aren't bothered) before you do any more - they have such sweeping powers that you don't want to mess with them (and your client won't thank you if you put them in and then the CO makes the client re-do them all to look right on the outside).
Get that CO bound up in the decision, asap!
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Post by engineerone on Feb 25, 2008 21:31:25 GMT
agree with jake, since the co has the power, and often not too much knowledge get them to give the correct decision before. often the view outside is difficult anyway, cause you're looking at a wierd angle so it is difficult to know what is right. in general i would have thought the most viewed side would be the one to worry about, it also shows you care more for the customer. paul
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Post by jfc on Feb 25, 2008 21:33:22 GMT
I'd say the side that can let the water in is the one to worry about
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Post by engineerone on Feb 25, 2008 21:38:48 GMT
oh, are they working windows with a real job you are right of course i bow to your practical knowledge ;D paul
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Post by dexteria on Feb 25, 2008 22:10:23 GMT
Thanks for the input guys. I'll get the customer to call the co before I fit the other two.
Cheers
Mark
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Post by mrgrimsdale on Feb 25, 2008 22:32:44 GMT
Conservation officer and/or bco only bothered about the outside and as jfc says, that's the side which keeps the water out.
cheers Jacob
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Post by dandrew on Feb 26, 2008 16:52:57 GMT
"Conservation officer and/or bco only bothered about the outside and as jfc says, that's the side which keeps the water out.
cheers Jacob"
Not true Jacob, depends on what grade the listing is: II, II* or I For grade I listed buildings the CO will even tell you what kind of paints you can use internally (even lead-containing ones).
When the building is listed the CO will trump the BCO, so for example you could put in single glazing at the CO's behest when normally the BCO would insist on double glazing.
The devil is in the detail
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Post by dexteria on Feb 27, 2008 18:30:32 GMT
I decided to fix them plum. The rest of the rooms are wonky inside anyway so they won't look out of place and no-one can say that they are installed wrong.
Cheers
Mark
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Post by jfc on Feb 28, 2008 21:53:27 GMT
Good move if no one can decide and you need to get on . If they complain then just whack a spirit level on them and smile
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