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Glue Mar 6, 2008 20:10:44 GMT

Post by dalo218 on Mar 6, 2008 20:10:44 GMT

Hi
after some wise words about glue. i have to make up some Ash worktops for a kitchen in a barn conversion that we are working on . I bought the timber sawn and have machined it to 36mm x 115> 145mm boards and cut biscuit slots ready for assembly but what glue to use and incidentally what finish? Any Ideas?

dom Global Moderator Moderator Posts: 1,873	Glue Mar 6, 2008 20:13:34 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by dom on Mar 6, 2008 20:13:34 GMT Titebond III, Finishing Oil.
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Glue Mar 6, 2008 20:24:17 GMT

Post by dalo218 on Mar 6, 2008 20:24:17 GMT

Thanks Dom I,ll order some from axminsters i thought that may be the one people recomend but i cant get it locally so i was kinda hoping you d say EVO STIK as ive got loads of That! I do have some finishing Oil that i put on a plate rack i made recently so is it good at protecting worktops as this barn will be let for holidays so perhaps wont be looked after as well as it should.

jfc Administrator Administrator Posts: 3,178	Glue Mar 6, 2008 20:28:00 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by jfc on Mar 6, 2008 20:28:00 GMT Extramite would be the glue i would use .

dalo218 New Member Quality is remembered long after the price is forgotten Posts: 32	Glue Mar 6, 2008 20:31:03 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by dalo218 on Mar 6, 2008 20:31:03 GMT Not EVO STIK then!

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Glue Mar 6, 2008 20:40:55 GMT

Post by dom on Mar 6, 2008 20:40:55 GMT

No not Evo Stik, in truth a two part glue is best but I have found the Titebond excellent for grip and water resistance.
Danish Oil is good and certainly better than varnish which tends to peel.
Oil is easily refreshed.
You will need at least four coats.
Nothing wrong with Extramite/Cascamite, in fact it's better than Titebond, it's used on boats. I'm just lazy and can't be bothered with the mixing.

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jfc Administrator Administrator Posts: 3,178	Glue Mar 6, 2008 20:44:07 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by jfc on Mar 6, 2008 20:44:07 GMT Ahhhh you wouldnt want to use jacobs boiled cats bllx and spit heated at 60* for 7 mins then ? ;D

pj Junior Member Posts: 88	Glue Mar 7, 2008 12:25:59 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by pj on Mar 7, 2008 12:25:59 GMT Titebond 3 will give a darkish glue line which will be more visible in ash. My choice would be cascamite for the glue and Osmo polyox for the finish. Philip

mailee Senior Member Posts: 468	Glue Mar 7, 2008 23:26:02 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by mailee on Mar 7, 2008 23:26:02 GMT Ok, OK, I just gotta ask, what is this Osmo Polyx stuff then? seems to be popping up all over recently.
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Scrit Administrator Cast Iron Administrator Posts: 1,275	Glue Mar 8, 2008 11:57:17 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Scrit on Mar 8, 2008 11:57:17 GMT Isn't that some form of oil finish? So probably not the best glue around..... Scrit
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Glue Mar 8, 2008 19:28:24 GMT

Post by paulchapman on Mar 8, 2008 19:28:24 GMT

mailee said:

Ok, OK, I just gotta ask, what is this Osmo Polyx stuff then? seems to be popping up all over recently.

Mailee, Rob (Woodbloke) used it on the elm chest he made with all those small drawer fronts made from burr elm, if you remember. I've seen it and it gives a lovely finish. If you PM him I'm sure he will be able to give you the details.

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woodworker Junior Member Posts: 79	Glue Mar 8, 2008 21:14:33 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by woodworker on Mar 8, 2008 21:14:33 GMT pj said: Titebond 3 will give a darkish glue line which will be more visible in ash. My choice would be cascamite for the glue and Osmo polyox for the finish. Philip i'll second that, It leaves a dark glue line on all light coloured timbers

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Glue Mar 10, 2008 9:10:55 GMT

Post by pitbull on Mar 10, 2008 9:10:55 GMT

Extramite for me. But I wouldn't have used biscuits. In some intances using biscuits on wood, can give you shaddowing of the biscuits. Similair to what archeologists look for an arial veiw of the ground. you will see the partch where the biscuit is.
And if your using the oil, remember to oil top and bottom, as especially in kitchens you need too seal all round to help prevent cupping.

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Roger Junior Member Posts: 59	Glue Mar 10, 2008 10:31:28 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Roger on Mar 10, 2008 10:31:28 GMT Mailee - this is the Osmo Polyx-Oil and very good stuff it is: Osmo Polyx-Oil
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Roger Junior Member Posts: 59	Glue Mar 10, 2008 10:34:38 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Roger on Mar 10, 2008 10:34:38 GMT Another good finish you could look at is : Auro 108 - a Worktop specific finishing Oil and smells good into the bargain!
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Glue Mar 10, 2008 11:04:33 GMT

Post by mrgrimsdale on Mar 10, 2008 11:04:33 GMT

roger said:

Mailee - this is the Osmo Polyx-Oil and very good stuff it is:

Osmo Polyx-Oil

Used it on our living room floor - old boards cleaned up. Dries fast. Covers area as per details on the tin. Lasts well (so far - been down about 1 1/2 years). Expensive. Similar to danish oil.
I would have used linseed oil myself (half/half with real turps) but Mrs G insisted on having her own way

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Scrit Administrator Cast Iron Administrator Posts: 1,275	Glue Mar 10, 2008 13:33:49 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Scrit on Mar 10, 2008 13:33:49 GMT mrgrimsdale said: Used it on our living room floor - old boards cleaned up. Dries fast. Covers area as per details on the tin. Lasts well (so far - been down about 1 1/2 years). Expensive. Similar to danish oil. Yes, but is it glue? ;D
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Glue Mar 10, 2008 22:05:41 GMT

Post by dalo218 on Mar 10, 2008 22:05:41 GMT

Thanks for all the help on this one , In the end i went with the Extramite and still looking into the finish ill let you know how that works out.

Gluing up went well but had to do it in three stages as i dont have enough clamps,

i hope the biscuits don't show they are a good 18mm down , any way all tops cut in today so ill finish sanding tomorrow and seal the undersides with my finishing oil to see if the punters like it!