Workshop Layout

[sainty]

jfc said:

I am sure we can do this between us . The frame work is easy .............If we actually start to get somewhere with this idea then i will build it to see if it works .

Oh well what a disappointment...... ;D

Going back to that thread has got me thinking again.......I might be keeping my eyes open on ebay.

Infact, i think I'm just going to sign a load of cheques and hand them out........

[jfc]

My thinking on the wall saw was to use a rail system , or just a straight edge really . The main thing was to use a circular saw with it . I notice at the timber yard i use the lads mark the boards to be cut rather than trusting the stops etc so really all i need to do is find a way of supporting the rail at both ends and locking it down .

[wizer]

I must admit that the B&Q wall saw seems to be pretty accurate. I'm guessing they're not cheap tho

Some sort of cutting table which is mounted to the wall using guide rails. hmm maybe the EZ system could work for this.

[jfc]

B & Q do a wall saw ? Do you have a link ?

[wizer]

Their cutting service.

[Scrit]

sainty said:

(re-wall saws) They do come up on Ebay but they are never local. What sort of accuracy do you get with a panel saw?

They (wall saws) tend to be a problem because they are a royal PIA to move - it takes a couple of guys and a HIAB lorry because they don't come apart too readily. Getting them set up again once they've been moved is apparently 1/2 a day of engineer's time because they tend to flex a bit when you shift them. As to accuracy (and I presume that you're talking about wall saws, not panel saws here), the very best such as the Swiss Streibig machines are every bit as good as a conventional high-end panel saw such as the Altendorf/Martin/Panhans and are available with facilities such as DRO read-outs and scoring units. Holz-Her wall saws have a similar reputation. Lower range machines like the Harwi are more akin to panel saws by Robland or Griggio, et al, i.e. not as good and sometimes with annoying shortcomings. And yes, I know that the Yanks refer to wall saws as vertical panel saws........

jfc said:

I notice at the timber yard I use the lads mark the boards to be cut rather than trusting the stops etc

That's got to be something to do with crappy, poorly maintained equipment or alternatively untrained, inexperienced staff and isn't the norm. I sometimes get stuff sawn by HPP in Oldham where they use Streibigs with DRO stops - and they're bloody brilliantly accurate (i.e. spot on and square, not somewhere in the general vicinity)

wizer said:

I must admit that the B&Q wall saw seems to be pretty accurate. I'm guessing they're not cheap tho

B&Q were buying Holz-Her wall saws - and they start at £8 to £10k

Scrit

Edit: PS - I forget to mention the one thing that most wall saws won't do. they won't do mitre cuts with a couple of exceptions and to my knowledge none of the commercial units can handle bevel rips, either

[jfc]

Hmmm , both yards i use use a tape rather than stops so maybe it is the norm for smaller work Come to think of it i dont use stops because i dont trust them but then i dont knock out 300 units a week .