The Workshop

[sainty]

Hi

Further to this thread heres a couple of photos of my new workshop.



and from the other side..




Been in a week or so now so just settling in. Everything has been placed roughly in position as per the other thread. Just been too busy to do anything else like build in storage, finishing rooms etc. Hope to get some of those things done some time in the future but I think that I am flat out until at least the end of the summer!! Not to mention son number two due to arrive in four weeks!


Its all a bit agricultural but its got power. It does seem to struggle to keep out the driving rain, and its cold but I like it and we've all got to start somewhere. ;D ;D ;D


rgds

Sainty

[jfc]

Oooooooooooooooooo the space !!!! Well done matey Your going to need a few more mats to cover that floor ;D

[paulchapman]

What a lot of space Looks nice, Sainty.

Cheers

Paul

[Head clansman]

well done sainty excellent space, as you say a bit agriculture , but never mind when your working you'll generate your own heat , don't mind me asking what the unit next to the what look like a bench with all the holes in, it appears to be a sheet storage unit of some sort , am i right ? with what appear to be sliding cut to size guide of some sort how doe's that work .? not seen one of them .

[andy]

I'm not jealous


Not one little bit

[sainty]

mjmpropman said:

well done sainty excellent space, as you say a bit agriculture , but never mind when your working you'll generate your own heat , don't mind me asking what the unit next to the what look like a bench with all the holes in, it appears to be a sheet storage unit of some sort , am i right ? with what appear to be sliding cut to size guide of some sort how doe's that work .? not seen one of them .

The bench with all the holes in it is a Festool MFT its not getting much use at the moment except as a table. The "bench" next to that is what I make! They are mini walls that are used for displays, they get matched up with a base. If I took that second photo from the same place you would hardly see anything but MDF walls and bases!! I guess you just grow to fill the space that you have.


Rgds



Sainty

[9fingers]

Hi Stuart,

Somehow it looks far more spacious than your floor plan. Still much larger than your last place.

Good Luck

Bob

[Head clansman]

HI Sainty
The "bench" next to that is what I make! They are mini walls that are used for displays, they get matched up with a base.

I know i bang on about old tools etc , but what the hell are you talking about mini walls , matched up with bases etc , not all things old were good i like to try an keep up with today if i can , mini walls etc mind boggling .

[engineerone]

nice looking place. i seem to remember that you were asking about extraction.

by chance i oiked out some books i have not checked out for some time, and came across a taunton/finewoodworking product by one of their old editors sandor nagyszalanczy
called woodshop dust control. first issued 1995, not a lot about cyclones, but some good basics, including the following formula

cubic capacityof workshop (in feet cause i can't remember the conversion ) x number of air changes per hour 6-8 depending on usage.
divided by 60 to get the cubic feet of movement required per minute.

he does suggest you ignore height being over 12 feet in the calculation but don't know why.

so it would be for instance 20 x 20 x12 x8/60
which would give you 640 cubic feet per minute of air movement required for a commercial shop.

hope that is helpful

paul

[colincott]

Nice one sainty

I cant look any more as it just too much space

[seaco]

You lucky Bar Steward...

[mailee]

Boo hoo, I lost count of how many times my workshop would fit into that. Gonna burn it down now in discust.

[pitbull]

well done and good luck, with your new place.
its best to let it grow into a workshop anyway. Depending on what kinds of stuff you make will depend on the layout,
A nice high ceiling to swing things around, If you ain't got the floor space its handy having the height.
And I noticed you managed to find a spot for the kettle.

[Head clansman]

the kettle that the most important bit of kit in any workshop , no kettle no work

[sainty]

pitbull said:

And I noticed you managed to find a spot for the kettle.

Nearly right PB. I went in and found the optimum position for the combi machine (kettle, fridge, microwave) and all the other gear was fitted in around that if i had the space. Its all about priorities you know.

rgds


Sainty

[pitbull]

I have mine sited next to the toilet in the office, (The toilets not in the office) Go to the toilet via the office pour a coffee from my machine, go to the toilet, come back, pick up my coffee, go to the bench, drink my coffee, and go through the whole process again. so for me maybe its no coffee more work. ;D

[engineerone]

to help with the driving rain, you might find that checking out
www.gapstop.co.uk might be of help, their product appears to be designed to make smaller garages cleaner and warmer, but it might be of use in you circumstances ;D

paul

[wizer]

I just fitted a roller garage door which is very drafty. Not much info on the gapstop site. Could it be used on a roller?

[engineerone]

not sure, have not used it.

however seems to me rollers are always going to be drafty unless you put some kind of screen round the edges.

something like a draft screen used in houses where coal fires were used. an mdf 3 sided box with some kind of draft excluder rubbing against the rollers might well work properly though.

paul

[wizer]

thanks Paul, that was the conclusion I was coming to. I didn't realise quite how drafty a roller would be.

[sainty]

Thanks for the heads up on the gapstop Paul. Do you think they do it in 4" sections? I did say it was agricultural!!! I think its going take something more drastic to solve the problems, so I'll live with it until the summer and if things go well this year I will make provisions for next winter.


rgds


Sainty

[engineerone]

glad to offer some directions, just shows all my reading of magazines helps occasionally

interestingly enough, i found it in octane a car mag.

paul

[engineerone]

mailee, thinking about your roller door.
you have two real problems, all to do with the gaps you need
to have.

so my overnight thoughts were as follows.

i would put a beam on the front wall on the outside of the new door, with some plastic brush type insulation against which the door goes up and down. this will cut down some of the ingress but will over time of course wear.

now, behind and inside the doors on each wall i would build a two sided box. cram insulation between the door and wall, then, again the brushes where the door moves upwards again.

you also of course need to do the same at the top.

a pita i know, but all garage doors seem to have a similar problem, unless you make stable ones

nice snow though

paul

[wizer]

I take it you were talking to me?

I was also thinking about this over night and came to pretty much the same conclusion. I'd never considered boxing in the inner sides. That's a good idea. At the top I was thinking of a double brush system. Hard to explain in words but I think I have it sorted in my head. I'll try and get some pics to show you how it looks atm. One of those jobs I probably won't get around to until the weather warms up, then I'll probably forget how nescessary it is. I must admit that we could have installed it a little better to cut down on the draft (gaping hole) at the top. But there's no way I'm moving it now!

PS: anyone know a good source of LONG industrial type brush draught excluders?

[engineerone]

sorry wizer

aren't those long things called BROOMS ;D

paul